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thanks mick you made some good points

thanks guys i've been reading about other newbies shaving and i think its because of the angle i'll try the 20 to 30 dergee angle next time

i have a dovo and a schuchbauer wurzburg and a blue steel razor the razor i just shaved with i didnt strop the seller said it was shave ready and no i didnt watch the videos the angle i use is a 45...

having a heck of a time straight razor shaving i've done it three times now i honed two different razors and had one come to me shaving sharp so the seller said and they all pull like crazy