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Ahh...here's the deal with my japanese stones, with the exception of one, they are not razor stones. One is an ozuku scrap, I know it's not that great (because I have synthetic stones to compare it...

I've not had any unsatisfactory results (didn't even have any "razor" stones for a while, only woodworking stones - that I'd rather not haul back and forth to the bathroom), I'd just like to avoid...

I think you're overthinking my question. This part:

>>Basically for simple edge maintenance I don't think there is anything better...<<

is all I was looking for. I understand what a good ozuku...

Well, my small (and not so expensive) japanese hones aren't that good. I'm thinking they're probably more like a barber's hone, but they are comfortable to shave from - not blindingly sharp. Well,...

How do you guys find these, with lather used, compared to a decent japanese finisher (final finisher, that is, like a good tight non-scratchy ozuku, etc)?