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+1 exactly what i was going to post!
Read this thread http://straightrazorpalace.com/honing/77726-famous-infamous-norton-4-8-janorton-2012-a.html

Can you get a shave ready edge with the norton 4k/8k? If not you really need to figure that out first because anything after that whether 12k or 10k is just a waste of time.I do have a Naniwa ss 12k...