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For some reason it never dawned on me to use a DE to clean up. I guess maybe it felt like cheating on my straight, or forcing it into an unwanted manage toi.

Yea it certainly seems as though I answered my own question. Being new to this it helps to have other input.

Thanks guys. I got the impression that it was unnecessary but thought it was one of those strokes you 'had' to do.

I've been doing two passes WTG but only one XTG. I never thought of doing a second XTG. Going to have to try that. Thanks.

Is the ATG stroke absolutely necessary? I seem to get what I classify as a really nice shave without it. The few times I went against the grain it tore me up and i had wicked burn for three or four...