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OK I am curious about DaveW's comment - no lapping. How does that effect the honing of the razor. I lapped mine flat , but still have some grit marks below the surface. Are you saying it is OK to...

Thanks all - I have a set of man made hones - yes 4/8K Norton is one. I just ordered my first Jnat as a finisher and I have a set of ArKs for knives. I purchased a Surgical Black to give it a try as...

Anyone use and Arkansas surgical black or translucent as a touch up hone - I would be interested in the results. Sorry I posted this in the incorrect forum.