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yep , I have it linked and saved in my tool bar from before , I just was thrown off and still kinda am by the missing "L" even under magnification I cant even see a scratch where a "L" would have...

2 hr's ?? ive been looking for as long as it took to get here from Sweden ...lol

thanks again (as usual) I can honestly say I searched the 1787 G&M beter never even glanced at the 1774 , and everything in searches came up as something to do with France but nothing about any...

that was actually my first search/guess ... but very possible that ScienceGuy has the mark .. very cool if so !!
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well ive been through my sources of info and have come up with nothing !! I hate to ask but im asking !! any help on history of this mark or name please inform me :popcorn: still have to clean it up...