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    You would need a heavy diamond plate slurry or...

    You would need a heavy diamond plate slurry or botan nagura to set a bevel on a hard stone like a shubodani. Synthetics work great for this, but you can do it.
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    I go to naturals after bevel set. I use a softer...

    I go to naturals after bevel set. I use a softer jnat to prefinish then a finisher. I use naguras and tomos, i dont use diamond plate slurry although i have.
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