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At least one, and a 15k suehiro, and quite a few Jnats. Im sure there will be other hones as well. Its recommended that you bring your hones so you can get some tips on what you have. Lapped and...

Your best shave ever was off a naniwa 12k?

I hear ya, but the stone IS all that. I have the 15 and 20k and just ordered the 10 k as well. These stones have a very nice hard feel to them and deliver great EASY edges IMO. The only downside IMO...

It will be the last hone you will buy(until the next one).

Well yes the dmt would but it would allow you to use after a 1k thru finish. Water only ime can lead to harsh edge although not all stones. The slurry breaks down into finer and finer. Its a process...

Ive used and sold a few thuris. Some of them are very good and could be had under $100. Ebay can be a place to find some of these although I havent looked in a while so maybe things have changed. You...

I snagged one for what i though was a high price last year, its higher now though. So thru the roof is a relative term.

One interesting fact although it doesnt tell the whole story is the SG 20k is .5 micron particles, as opposed the the shapton 30k is .49. So particle wise they are essentially the same. I never used...

+1 to what Jimmy said. I have a dark blue that works great, the suehiro edge is a keener one though imo. But the Escher has a smoother feel as naturals do.

Great stone. It comes with a small slurry stone that works great for cleaning swarf and resurfacing. 1k and 4k iirc.Its in Japanese though. I use the 15k also .

I wouldnt consider lather detergent. And for the time it takes for the 40 laps its rinsed off. The stone doesn't appear to absorb much water. I don't honestly know but I've done this many times on my...

If you haven't you can try some lather on the suehiro 20k and take like 40 laps with weight of the razor only, this gets the edge almost as smooth and fine as a jnat.

I think if we look at the suehiro in that it is a synthetic so the user can get a very refined edge that is very predictable the first time and if the edge off a naniwa 12k or chosera 10k is worthy,...

Its a fast easy way to get a great fast very keen and smooth edge. If you are used to Jnats and have your stone figured out, its not necessary. I have the 20k and its fast and easy, no pasted strop...