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I did a quick search and thought that the ones with the "Y" were the older.

No worries it was next to free anyway..

It reminds me of the W&B's . I have a large collection but I avoid the ones...

I have some more treasures..

These are a few that I have never heard of..

Firstly there is a nice little blade with a pyramid on the tang and a cross within the pyramid. There is writing but...