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I think we may well be talking about the same ones glen, I loaned mine to os, I don't think he was over impressed, and he also thought the grit estimates were a bit high, but I only have the 2 less...

Good day,
I am glad you are/have finding/found your feet.
I have a couple of Welsh slate hones, they are available from eBay, and now seem to come as a three pack, I find them ok, though I don't...