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Maybe I've just been lucky, but none of my blacks have been bitter at 5 minutes. Greens at 5 though...bitter as hell to my tastebuds

You go by color?? I've always used a tea timer...To each their own, I guess. 5 minutes for black tea, 4 for Oolong, and 3 for Green.

We have a place in Anoka, MN here called the "Mad Hatter Tea Room". If you can get past the girly atmosphere, they have some really nice tea there. My wife swears by it and uses a good ol' fashioned...