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I just can's seem to find a grip and angle that makes me feel comfortable doing it. I have evolved more to the scything strokes others have mentioned in this thread. They seem to follow my beard...

I've been shaving with one tool or another for more than 50 years. Using no tool (double edge, injectors, many bladed cartridges and SRs) I've never made more than a pass plus a touch up. ..call it...