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did some burnishing with my slurry stone and got a nice smooth surface though not a literal mirror but can still see some texture (is that the best i can hope for?) any way gave the razor about 80...

So you burnished it with the slurry stone? i had tried with the back of a chisel because i didn't think slurry stone wouldn't do the same thing. Do you do that with or without water? Maybe i will...

Here's a image of it. Yes, i finish with a SS 8k. with this last try of the hone i used water and glycerin. 20 laps no difference another 20 and it felt like sand paper.
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I'll get a picture of it this afternoon. My only experience with naturals is this and a PHIG. i'm just wondering if the difference between a 8k SS and a 12k of any kind is just too small for me to...

personally ready to give up on natural hones. way beyond my level of expertise or interest. Lesson learned.

Thanks SOLITARYSOLDIER i'm sorry if it sounded like you had misrepresented the stone as i trust your judgement(also why i didn't say where i got it). i was sure it must be my error and have run out...

supposed to be 15k. can i expect it to leave visible scratches (as compared to my 8k naniwa?)

Just purchased a Welsh slate the was sold as a "Welsh Thuri". i am new to naturals so i checked around with different people to see if such a stone would be easy to use. well, NOT for me apparently....