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    Well the aggressive comment I base off of two...

    Well the aggressive comment I base off of two things. Firstly that all of the instructions (that I have seen) call out for 12 or less laps to bring back the edge, and most of the information I have...
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    Seems to be that while barbers hones can...

    Seems to be that while barbers hones can Definatly refine an edge, the ones I have played with are aggressive (as far as how fast they remove metal). I only do about 10 laps on my Apart hone.
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    I use an "Apart" barber hone after my 8k now and...

    I use an "Apart" barber hone after my 8k now and notice a definite improvement. I have heard it speculated that the Apart hone is 12 to 15k grit. Was a good $20 spent :)
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