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No black came up from either. I would say the leather was 75-80% of the way there out of the wax. It just needs that tweak of conditioning to pull it over the hump. It did come with two other nos...

Bought this nos strop. It's not far off but it could use a touch of conditioning. I know the oil is not the way to go with certain types so I want to hear some opinions first. 245034245035245036