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Thank you both for the advise and I will try some 8's next time and see how it works, also I will ease up on pressure and see if I can hold a edge. This is what this form is all about, learning from...

I use a pencil to mark when I am flat like Lynn does and I leave my Chinese 12k and king both in water. Since the king is clay based should I not leave it in water? Leaving it in water may be making...

I use a King, 1000/6000 and a 12000 for finishing, I have found that the King stone doesn't last long on the 1000 side as I lap about every 3rd or 4th hone. Every time I lap I loose a lot of stone, I...