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I found out this from Neil Miller:

http://straightrazorpalace.com/razors/105319-makers-mark-id.html#post1262113

Looks like one of them is a Wardrobe & Smith & the other is a Geo Johnson.

I was thinking that earlier pieces may have had a straight stem but I could be wrong. Both seem to be pretty old because of the stubby tail.

Thank you for the info. Any thing on this is greatly appreciated. The smaller one with the arrow MIGHT not be a Wosty!

Yeah, I agree with you on the smaller one. It is too clean to look that old & someone probably hit it on their grinding machine but did a good job on it. I have read that there were counterfeit's...

These two are a recent eBay find that I got separately for an exceptionally cheap deal, each less than $75. I think someone bid on the larger one which is the one with just a pipe w/o wording. The...