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When I kiss the leather it is when o am going to fast and forget to flip my edge on the leather while striping on faberic.

Thanks, I was hopping that there might be s good enough POS that would be good enough to hold a bevel just to test. But guess not.
So while I got you, when stroping, I will ocasionaly kiss my...

Well a point of reference does help

Lol if you don't have anything near a 1k , you may get a bevel set but not in any reasonable amount of time

Are there any pakki razors good enough to practice bevel setting without taping? Note note trying to shave with them just hone practice at a very cheap price.