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Your findings are opposite from mine. So lets compare notes with the community and see if we can find the disconnect. Lets start with your Escher. For fun make a slurry on your escher and drip it...

Glad to hear you got this sorted out.
A wise member once told me "90 percent of what we do is test"
Truer words have never been spoken.
Different era and location steels perform best with...

Perhaps you can try using your coti to make a slurry on your thuri. And then vice versa. You can use them to create your own blend. Dilute to water and see which your face prefers.IMHO