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Courser. Tops out around a 8-10 K, if you want to push it there. More like 5-6, with just water.

I'm a four stone guy, as well. I bevel set with a Chosera, but the rest of the progression is all naturals which consists of the Washita, Thurigan, and Escher B/G. B/D

I must say, there's...