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Generally a couple of minutes, maybe 3 or 4, I'm still not terribly fast at the cheeks and jaw...

Thanks very much, all, I'm trying a D R Harris soap now, and it lathers so much better! A couple of times I've found the lip and chin had dried out rather than disappeared by the time I got to them,...

Thanks everyone. I'll definitely try a different soap, then, although I may stick out the current puck, as long as I know that it's the soap, not the technique. I'll strop first, as well, I'd thought...

I've been trying out using soap to get lather. My gear is an old onion soup mug as scuttle, a cheap Wilkinson Sword boar brush from Boots, Geo F Trumper sandalwood soap, very soft water.

My...