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Thanks for this sharptonn! So what are we talking time-wise, between which years would rattlers have been made, roughly? I can see how it's not a mystery to anyone, it's mostly just nerdy me trying...

Thoughts anyone? Any help or guess is appreciated. :o

Ah, I see. I'd misunderstood what a frameback was. Thanks for correcting :) That might very well be the case. Does the inward toe speak to something special when it comes to the manufacturing date?...

What characterizes the rattler shape? :) And would/could that mean that it was originally made cirka 1830's but renovated some time during the late part of the century?

Hi all!

I'd be very happy for help with a bit of a mystery I've run into...

This is an 1800's John Barber which I'm trying (failing!? :shrug:) to date more specifically. It comes in a case from...