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Yes, I have, it took me 4 different PHIG's before I found the one that I kept,,

The slurry and the honing action is very very similar to a good Thuringen it almost feels like you are honing on...

I think you are reading something, someplace, very very wrong...

I am trying to think of anyone that I consider a Pro that doesn't use a myriad of stones,,,
Most of us (not all) do set the bevel...

Gosh, how to say this without sounding like a complete butthead...

Guys if you are getting wire edges, or the edge is collapsing at grits higher than 4k you are doing some fundamentally wrong...

I am with ya Maurice,,,

I wrote this the other day on here,,, "It seems that the "Grit" of natural stones jumped on this forum (and the others that follows us soon after) when the Shapton stones...

After a huddle with the search guru's we found references to the name back into 9/09 and a reference where Dylan claimed it, and they seem to think it started sometime around there in Chat (by Dylan)...

Hmmmm the mystery is on, as this is the thread I thought it was named in

http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones/37759-made-china-but-not-12k-so-lets-stop-calling-12k-2.html

Maybe Dylan did name...

Trust me Maurice I could be wrong too it has happened before :) I just rarely like to admit it hehehe

Now I guess I am going to have to go look though or it will bug me hehehe

Wanna bet...

I believe that name actually was coined by Ron/Utopian as PHIG = People's Hone of Indeterminate Grit)

I can search out the thread but I remember him on a tirade as to why we call it a 12k when we...