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    On all that I have had, I have taken the stone...

    On all that I have had, I have taken the stone down about 1/8 inch and the grainy or gritty has been gone for the duration.
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    I have been recommending for at least a couple...

    I have been recommending for at least a couple years now, that you should lap the Norton 4K past the gritty outer layer. Once you do, you get one of the most reliable and consistent hones out there...
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