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Having a good bevel set is really key to getting good results when honing.

The main thing is that if it takes you 15 strokes or 20 strokes and you can get to the result you want on a repeated...

On the finishing stones above 8K, I will normally do just 10 no pressure X strokes. This is on the Naniwa SS 12K, Shapton 16K, Sigma 13K and with my naturals just using water. This number has proven...