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  1. Agreed. I consider it to be the equivalent of...

    Agreed.
    I consider it to be the equivalent of breaking your leg as the initial stage of training for a marathon.
  2. Well, my teeth have remained crooked so I don't...

    Well, my teeth have remained crooked so I don't have that for an excuse!
    :OT
    I think we were talking about honing here!
  3. I'm old so a long time, but nothing near...

    I'm old so a long time, but nothing near professional. When I was in high school, I could not decide between going to college to become a doctor or going into the Navy band to go toward...
  4. I'm far from a beginning trumpet player, but I...

    I'm far from a beginning trumpet player, but I never learned jazz improvisation. I've always wanted to learn but never have done anything about it. I keep seeming to find other priorities.
  5. Dave, I completely get, and agree with, your...

    Dave, I completely get, and agree with, your point. Yes, subsequent hones can make up for a less than perfect edge off of the 1k. This is exactly why I almost always follow a 1k hone with either a...
  6. No one is suggesting that anyone should chuck the...

    No one is suggesting that anyone should chuck the rest of their hones. The point is that it can be a learning experience to find out how good of a shave, without irritation, can be achieved off of...
  7. Yes, right up until you run into a problem with...

    Yes, right up until you run into a problem with another blade! They always are out there, making you humble again!



    Of course the entire goal of this process is a great shave, but I believe...
  8. I've been using a sacrificial Gold Dollar for my...

    I've been using a sacrificial Gold Dollar for my tests too, so challenge accepted!
  9. Thanks, that's more for my list. I don't think I...

    Thanks, that's more for my list. I don't think I ever have shaved off of the Shapton Pro 1k or 1.5k, but I will soon.
  10. WHATEVER you use for a bevel setter is what you...

    WHATEVER you use for a bevel setter is what you should use here.

    The point of this thread, and others that preceded it, has nothing to do with what hone you use to set the bevel. Instead, the...
  11. It certainly counts if that is what you use to...

    It certainly counts if that is what you use to set a bevel.

    Yes, stropping can make up for some roughness off the hone, but the big lesson here is that if the bevels are not set, then stropping...
  12. Well, it is all a matter of semantics. Once the...

    Well, it is all a matter of semantics. Once the two bevel planes meet along the entire length of the blade, the bevels are set and define the edge, but even on the 1k that is followed by lighter...
  13. Yes! This is exactly why so many have said so...

    Yes! This is exactly why so many have said so many times that the bevel set is 90% of honing.

    And that number might be low!
  14. It's kind of amazing, ain't it?

    It's kind of amazing, ain't it?
  15. I would have tried the 400, but my two best 400...

    I would have tried the 400, but my two best 400 grit hones, including the Chosera, are out on loan.

    I suspect that the 400 might be pushing the limits!

    I will say that there is a marked...
  16. No, you definitely should not be seeing a white...

    No, you definitely should not be seeing a white line. However, it is great news that you DO see it because now you know what to look for.

    Two points define a line. Two lines define a plane. ...
  17. I always use my microscope during the bevel...

    I always use my microscope during the bevel setting. The reality is that not all parts of the edge come along at the same rate all the time, and sometimes bad things happen at the edge during the...
  18. YesYesYES! That really is the key!

    YesYesYES!

    That really is the key!
  19. Thanks. I've never shaved off of that so I'll...

    Thanks. I've never shaved off of that so I'll have to try that one some time soon.

    Actually, I've got at least a couple dozen hones that could be considered bevel setters and I might as well...
  20. I think you just got better at honing! Nice job!...

    I think you just got better at honing! Nice job!

    I don't believe that all razors will respond in the same manner, but doing that same approach of trying to max out what the 1k can do certainly...
  21. As planned, I touched up the gold dollar's 600...

    As planned, I touched up the gold dollar's 600 grit edge with an 800 grit Chosera and shaved with yesterday. There was a big improvement in the shave quality on the 800. Whisker removal still was...
  22. I like keeping some of my razors fully "old...

    I like keeping some of my razors fully "old school." A hundred years ago, few shavers had access to more than one hone.
  23. I think whatever is normal for your bevel setting...

    I think whatever is normal for your bevel setting is fine. I assume you are suggesting a finish with a second layer of tape for a micro bevel. Since that is not normally done during a bevel set or...
  24. I continue to do something like that. I have a...

    I continue to do something like that. I have a set of razors that have been maintained only with a couple of barber hones since 5 years before I found SRP. After I joined SRP and started buying a...
  25. Why not? :) Actually, I've never shaved off of...

    Why not?
    :)
    Actually, I've never shaved off of mine so I will have to do that and compare it to the shave I got off the Chosera 600. Good idea!
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