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This discussion has me watching the Sigma 13k thread rather closely, I have to say... :beer1:

On most of the razors I experimented on, I test shaved off the Norton edge 1st just to double-confirm the edge was @ its best off of that stone. Definitely I've come to agree w/ the posters in this...

That's what I'm usually coming off of. I've been using a scope lately (doing lots of experimenting) & actually do think that more refined is better before the Jnat! :) Straight from the Norton was...

I've been following all this talk about Shaptons/Sigmas & am very curious about getting some to use before my Oozuku. Wouldn't happen until after I get a new job, but I'm doing research in advance. ...