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    But Nenand is right when he points out that you...

    But Nenand is right when he points out that you can't maintain an extreme smile on a flat surface. You only have to think in terms of putting an even chamfer on the edge of a coin. It can't be done...
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    [quote=Redwoood]I see what you meant. If you...

    I see what you meant. If you start with a straight edge and spine, and and create a smile, that will happen. The spine bands will be wider at the ends. My new Fillie was manufactured with a smile...
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    Nenand probably exaggerrated the smile to...

    Nenand probably exaggerrated the smile to demonstrate his point. That razor looks more like a scimitar. But the spine is accurate. It should be the same thickness along its entire length, if it is...
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    Great presentation Superfly! I'm sure it will...

    Great presentation Superfly! I'm sure it will help everyone visualize this better.

    I'm having trouble with this site again, so I'll make it short.

    Your model also demonstrates what I said. ...
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    Honestly, the angle doesn't make much sense when...

    Honestly, the angle doesn't make much sense when you're first creating the edge. It's purpose is to simulate the angled scratch lines of the x-pattern. When you're working with something like a...
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    Don't make any assumptions about my technical...

    Don't make any assumptions about my technical background. You might be surprized. But I guess you're just too smart for me, so do explain the geometry. But first I should tell you I have one of...
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    I didn't want to give the impression that I don't...

    I didn't want to give the impression that I don't use the x-pattern. Since I use barber hones a lot, especially for refreshing, I have no choice.

    One type of hone I've been using a lot lately...
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    I don't claim to be a honing expert, but I do...

    I don't claim to be a honing expert, but I do have about 100 successful razors under my belt, and three quarters of them have restored edges. Some were badly chipped, and some were poorly honed when...
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    I wish you had. Please explain how it's...

    I wish you had. Please explain how it's physically impossible to get a flat edge when you're working with a flat blade and a planar stone, and you're touching the entire edge to the stone and...
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    You're assuming that you hone like you do with...

    You're assuming that you hone like you do with the x-pattern. When you go straight across, you can place a finger at the center or even use two hands. Either way, an inexperienced honer has much...
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    I have to disagree with that. If you have a...

    I have to disagree with that. If you have a straight edge the entire edge should touch the stone, unless there's something wrong with your edge or the stone. If your edge doesn't and your blade...
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    This works exactly the same as the x-pattern if...

    This works exactly the same as the x-pattern if the edge is straight (except it's easier to maintain even pressure). No extra considerations are necessary. If you have a smiling edge you can't use...
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    There is NO reason to use the x-pattern on a wide...

    There is NO reason to use the x-pattern on a wide stone. If you hone straight across with the heel leading, you'll get exactly the same result, as far as the scratch pattern is concerned. Plus,...
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