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Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. That's why God made apples and oranges. :chapeau

Some people are wired to want to push the envelope. The same thing that would make a man want to do this to earn a living ........... or to join the Marine Corps. IMHO

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In maybe 1972 I was driving up to California and IIRC on route 66 I pulled over and climbed some cliff face in Arizona or maybe New Mexico. Same thing, I had ambitions to be a climber, had read about...

2 men reach top of Yosemite’s El Capitan in historic climb - The Washington Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANAk7UC6rg