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Today I looked at the two side by side with my B&L 30x stereo microscope and I cannot tell them apart. I suspect that they are one and the same. :shrug: .....but I may be wrong. Only 30x and I'm not...

Well that first chart shows the 15k USA is equivalent to the 12k Japanese so maybe that is why my two Shapton pros look alike and the 12k is supposedly not for sale in the USA ? :gaah: OTOH, the 15k...

People in Binghmpton, NY don't think that behavior is so sweet. :td

Yes that is true and they work well whatever they are. A rose by any other name is still a rose and all of that. :tu

This is great :D We don't know what grit the natural stones are and now we don't know what grit the Shaptons and Naniwas are :gaah: :rofl2:

If I am not mistaken Shapton has a gray series of glass stones that is not yet available in the USA that is intended for Japanese chisels. They use a type of steel with their chisels that is not used...