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Rolling x all the way on those. From start to finish.

That Robert Williams was no picnic to hone. This tortoise shelled Case Bros Springville NY was the toughest though. Since it is a 4/8 I think it had more to do with the geometry than the hard steel....

I've seen a Japanese razor with that extreme a smile and I had this one custom made by Robert Williams. In general if a maker doesn't think enough of his product to put his name on it I stay away...