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i agree me and a mate of mine were just saying for what honmeisters charge its hard work or can be and there not much money in it especialy if your restoring as well, i hone for my self but have...

Rayman did you get shaptons? what hones are you using Gary

i was thinking the same tihing tpt could even dull edge slightly i never perform tpt after last stages of honing may be hht no harm