Gentlemen,
This is my new Joris, the French-made open comb double edge shaver. It's an aggressive razor that shaves much like a straight razor, although it is less forgiving. The Joris is for trained hands, with a shave that is fabulous.
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Gentlemen,
This is my new Joris, the French-made open comb double edge shaver. It's an aggressive razor that shaves much like a straight razor, although it is less forgiving. The Joris is for trained hands, with a shave that is fabulous.
That is one beautiful piece of hardware my friend. Glad to see you found something that is usable for you.
Kind Regards,
Joe
That is a fine looking razor Obie!
I'm not sure if you have the Mühle R41, but if you do, how do you feel they compare?
I have the R41 and really enjoy how that thing shaves.
The reason I'm asking is your statement of it shaving much like a straight.
That is pretty much my feelings about the R41:)
Nice Obie! Probably a bit agressive for me as my standard is a late 40's aristocrat and a new futur that I am still using on 2.
Hello Joe,Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeSomebody
Yes, the Joris is a gorgeous razor. This one has the buffalo horn handle. The shave is really aggressive and you need a careful hand. Since my skin has quite a few miles on it, I also do almost as much stretching as I do with the straight. Here, too, the basic rules of straight razor shaving apply: zero pressure and watch the angle. I usually shave in three passes, straight or DE, but with the Joris I cut it down to two and some clean up. Having a tough beard and sensitive skin, I can't handle three passes with the Joris. It's an incredible shaver, but, as I noted earlier, it needs a fully trained hand. Now, I must figure out what to do with my many milder DE razors.
Hello Birnando,Quote:
Originally Posted by Birnando
I had the Muhle R41. I must say, my dear friend, I did not like it at all. Yes, that, too, as you say, shaves like a straight razor. Yet, I found the R41 harsh and mean. Really. Something in that razor did not agree with my temperament, and with my skin. I can't put my finger on it.
The blade exposure on both razors is about as wide as that on a Sheffield. The balance in the two razors, however, is wide apart. I found the balance in the Joris beautifully distributed, with the heavier weight on top. The same is true of the R41. But the buffalo horn handle on the Joris gave me a soft and luxurious grip. Also, the handle is longer, which helps in the grip. I think the Joris is just a nicer razor. Yes, of course, but it also costs a bloody fortune. What a glorious shaver, though. I have several other mostly improvised open comb razors, and I love them, but the Joris is in its own class.
Thanks, Robert. Yes, the Joris is aggressive. That's why it's not for everyone. I think the shave is easier for those accustomed to straight razors.Quote:
Originally Posted by lz6
I love the Aristocrat. What a beautiful razor. I would even call it a perfect razor — in every respect. I have two 1948 models and they are sweet and lovely. I am saving both for my grandsons. Also two Fatboys for them. I use the Aristocrat and the Fatboy regularly and can't say enough good things about them. Fabulous American workmanship, indeed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Obie
Thanks for the great break-down of the two razors Obie:)
I appreciate your words and experiences regarding this.
While I do like the R41, I definitely see your arguments against it.
Balance being one of them, it really isn't a star in that area.
I guess there is but one solution to this for me, I will have to give a Joris a go for myself:)
Birnando,Quote:
Originally Posted by Birnando
I think the Joris will dazzle you. I have seen photos of some of your magnificent straights. The Joris will fit it comfortably. By the way, I have two more Joris razors coming: one gold plated with the light buffalo horn handle, and one palladium in the rosewood handle. Suddenly I am hooked on the Joris. That's dangerous, especially since the dearly beloved tells me, "Now I see the double edge razors growing like rabbits."
Thank you my friend, very kind of you to mention my meager collection of razors:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Obie
Yes, there are dangers in this hobby, no doubt about that!
If you'll pardon me, I think I will keep the words of your significant other away from mine's ears, she will only be too happy to agree to that;)
I look forward to both seeing your new acquistions as well as reading your take on their performance.
Thanks again!
That Obie is one sexy razor the curves in her are jaw dropping one day I'll spend the money on her
Yes, I would not mention a word of this to your dearly beloved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birnando
Also, in the coming weeks I write extensively on the way Joris shaves.
Stay well, my friend.
Yes, Tyler, at first look the blade exposure looks scary. Think straight razor when shaving with the razor. Nice and easy. No pressure. Also, limit strokes over the same spot. In the first pass, the Joris removes about 89 to 90 percent of the stubble. Two passes and some minor cleanup are all you need. To introduce yourself to the open comb, though, I suggest the Merkur 25C. It is a mild open comb with a long handle. The 15C has the shorter handle. After some experience with the Merkur, you can move on to some of the New Model Gillette opens combs and then to the Joris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylerbrycen
Obie,
That's one beautiful, yet gnarly, looking razor you have there. It definitely looks like it demands both admiration and respect. Enjoy, my friend.
LMAO Obie, I see now where you have "diverted" your funds from selling off your straights!
I think you and Birnando are feeding each others RAD into a frenzy.
"Breeding like rabbits" too funny, albeit probably accurate!
Joe, my friend, I know exactly what you mean. Actually, I had most of the DE razors already. Many were stashed in the closet. There is still a bunch of vintage razors in the closet, including another Aristocrat and Fatboy. On the other hand, I think I bought one too many DE razors. I just can't resist beautiful things. Some, on the other hand, I bought for their shaving capabilities. For instance, the Weber, the one in the photo with the black shave head, is quite a good shaver. All the Edwin Jagger and Muhle razors are not only handsome, but they are also good shavers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeSomebody
I had eyed the Joris for at least a couple years. It's a gorgeous razor. Finally I broke down and bought one. It took me a few days to adjust to the shave, cutting my passes to two and some cleanup instead of the usual three. This is a formidable razor, and it does take getting used to, but once you find its sweet spot, it soars. By the way, I have two more coming. I can hear the dearly beloved now: "What, we've had two pregnant rabbits all along?" What can I say? I love the lady dearly.
Nice razor. Theirs a good separation between the blade and the comb bar?
K
Thank you. Yes, the blade exposure is quite pronounced. The razor is aggressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiruiz
Claiming your collection is meager is about like Obie saying the Joris is a mild razor!Quote:
Originally Posted by Birnando
Ryan, my friend, indeed, the Joris demands admiration and respect. As I noted, the razor shaves much like a straight. It even produces the same delicious scraping sound as does the hollow ground. Pressure must be as light as a halfhearted promise. Maximum two strokes on the same spot or risk razor burn. It does wonders on the neck, although be careful coming in horizontally from the outside of the neck toward the chin. So, yes, the shave is challenging. I also find it intoxicating. This, of course, has forced me to reduce my regular DE collection. For instance, today I said goodbye to the Feather. And so on. Much as I dislike the Muhle R41 for being harsh and mean, I am hooked on the assertive majesty of Joris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan82
Congrats on the beautiful razor.