Razors good or bad

Are there some razors no mater who made them no mater how sharp that just don't shave right. I have this one razor that was made by a noted maker. honed by a re-noun hone master stropped right and still leaves me bloody. I have shaved with this razor 2 times and I believe I need a transfusion. the other razors I use are not this bad. they were all honed by the same person so I know its right. I shave every other day. some times 3-4 days. do I need to find this blade a new home:shrug: the razor looks good even thought its quite old. now it might be me. I've back at the straight razors for a few months now. any ideas:idea:

When you say "I have shaved with this razor 2 times and I believe I need a transfusion. the other razors I use are not this bad" do you mean you are outing yourself with the others too just not quite as bad? If that is the case maybe it is technique related?

Bob

Is it a different "type" of straight? Full wedge vs. hollow, spike point versus rounded, 9/8 vs. 4/8? All of the above?

the other razors some times gets a bump. miner seep from the bump. nothing that the safety razors didn't do in the past. I had a problem at first with the points so now I use mostly round points. I have managed to get quite a few razors but only use 6 of them. trying to find the ones that work well and will probably sell the rest or just store them in the safe. I have a few d ducks, bokers , bismarks. two of the best I have and give almost no problem is two Sheffield's. I know that my tec. is not up to the long time users but I am getting better. it does take me longer to get the job done than most I guess but then again i'm never in a hurry anymore. I have had this razor since the late 70's and it had never been honed I guess because I had never heard the name before I never had it honed. then I found the name in a list of known makers and thought i'd try it. when I started back I had it honed. the 2 times I've shaved with it seems I have to make more passes against the grain to get all the stubble gone. face gets burn and it's a bloody mess.

the razor is full hollow and 6/8 it was made some times between 1922-1932. its German. since it's probably me i'll say the name World master by otto bush.

Dunno, I have an Otto Busch World Master the same size that performs very well no problems. Are the Sheffields you like and have no trouble with heavier grinds than full hollow grind?

Bob

the one I like best is a 7/8 1/4 grind. shaves good. the other is a 6/8 full hollow and it shaves good. the 7/8 is a barber point and the 6/8 is round point. like I said it probably is me I guess I need to keep at it and get a transfusion. I think next time I use it i'll wait 4 days and see if that helps. I do like the heaver blades one of my ducks is a 7/8 round point and I like it. I got into straights heavy so I have a few to ck out.

maybe you just need to bench that one and bring it back later. If you have a selection it seems logical that you would shave with the ones that are the easiest to use. Don't fight with your razor. Pull it from rotation and get back to it in a few months or weeks.

That's a very reputable brand, I'm not sure it's the razor. As much as I hate to say it the problem might be you.

RezDog said it best: perhaps it would be best to shelf this one for a while and come back to it in a few weeks.

So far for me, it seems that different razors have different personalities. Different techniques for different razors. I agree on setting aside untill fresh minded to try again. I sometimes get "mind tracked" into a certain technique with a certain razor, and need to lay it back till I can clear my mind to try again. Happy shavin'.

sounds like good advice. i'll keep going through the ones I have until I get the ones I do good with. I know that some of them will be just stored and some will find a new home. I just have to keep on until I figure out which is which. and it probably is a lot me. I know that the least scratch will bleed for ever. and maybe i'm going against the grain to much. which brings on the question how close is close enough.

I can guarantee it is defective and due to the age of it the product warranty has expired.

Being as you cut yourself with the razor, it is now classified as a biohazard and must be disposed of properly.

This can get costly, I am qualified to dispose of said items, and am willing to help a fellow SRP member.

Double bag the Item and securely package it, it will need to come via next day delivery due to hazmat regulations.

I will pm you the additional info.


No need to thank me, I am just a concerned SRP member helping out his wet shaving brethren. :angel:

Pat
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Otto Bush World Master's rock. Hard to find in good shape. I wonder if you are not using too much angle? Also, razors with a "toothy" edge will be rough and tend to grab and dig.
If you cannot see any serrations in the edge, strop it good on some CroOx and then leather. Shave to see. Some razors get honed with these serrations at the end. Yeah, they cut hanging hairs and all, but leave irritation and cut readily. The CroOx pasted strop will often remove them and tone it down. Strop, technique will solve most problems. JMO

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Originally Posted by rhensley

Are there some razors no mater who made them no mater how sharp that just don't shave right. I have this one razor that was made by a noted maker. honed by a re-noun hone master stropped right and still leaves me bloody. I have shaved with this razor 2 times and I believe I need a transfusion. the other razors I use are not this bad. they were all honed by the same person so I know its right. I shave every other day. some times 3-4 days. do I need to find this blade a new home:shrug: the razor looks good even thought its quite old. now it might be me. I've back at the straight razors for a few months now. any ideas:idea:

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This is an interesting topic...I have one razor, pro-honed, it's a DD Goldedge, and I think it hates me.

All my other blades, including a DD Satin Wedge, are fine, we get along great!

But this Goldedge, I don't know what it is about it, I've had the usual occasional nicks, but the three time's I've had a cut, like this morning (that was number #3), it's been this DD Goldedge!?! It's square point, have a few of those, it's a 5/8th, yup, have a few of those, but I think this Duck hates me!!

What's Occam's Razor say(hey, what an unintentional pun!), the simplest explanation is usually the most likely to be correct.

So it's either there's something different about the blade, maybe the shape of the scales, the position of the blade in the scales, maybe the way this razor ever so slightly changes my grip. Or, the razor is possessed, it belonged to a very evil person years ago, and it's some kind of cursed Talisman.

Frankly, I'm going with the idea that this Duck is cursed.

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Originally Posted by Phrank

I have one razor, pro-honed, it's a DD Goldedge, and I think it hates me.

All my other blades, including a DD Satin Wedge, are fine, we get along great!

But this Goldedge, I don't know what it is about it, I've had the usual occasional nicks, but the three time's I've had a cut, like this morning (that was number #3), it's been this DD Goldedge!?! It's square point, have a few of those, it's a 5/8th, yup, have a few of those, but I think this Duck hates me!!

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The easiest explanation for this is the extra hollow grind of the DD. My first razor was a Satin Edge, but even now if I'm not careful with that thin grind it will bite me right in the butt.... or is that cheek... lol

Yea, the extra hollow ground blades are a bit different alright and take a bit of getting used to. Pretty unforgiving of being mishandled.

Bob

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Originally Posted by BobH

Yea, the extra hollow ground blades are a bit different alright and take a bit of getting used to. Pretty unforgiving of being mishandled.

Bob

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Well the Priest just left, wouldn't perform the Exorcism, in his judgement, it wasn't a case of demonic possession, he told me, in his opinion, those extra-hollow ground razor's can really bite you if they aren't handled properly.

Case closed I guess...

Don't take this the wrong way but just based on what I'm seeing it looks like the problem rests more with you. It sounds like you are lacking in overall shaving knowledge and probably skill. Have you read through the forum and watched some of the videos?

+1 what RezDog said.

I have an American steel blade pro-honed that is mint. It's a 6/8 extra hallow grind. It is uber sharp. The shave, however, comes off leaving me with irritation and a bit of razor burn. I now keep that razor as my holy grail to compare to when examinig my other razors.

Incidentally, during the course of sending my first razor out for honing, I picked up a couple vintage sheffields that weren't prefect in terms of the edge or scales, but they shaved well with a good stropping...comfortable. And that was *before* I got a 12k hone and CrOx. After, the Sheffields are really smooth and I find forgiving. I found that after I honed a Solingren Koeller and Schmitz which is slightly bigger that 7/8, IIRC, it shaved nearly as smoothly. Whether its the weight or the grind or steel, I think I'll find with more experience that it might be all three factors. More blades coming, more experience under my belt, more reading up on SRP should tell. Also, it may be that with more honing experience(and shaving experience), I will be able to pull more potential out of the blades.

Every now and then, I'll go back to the holy grail, but whoah!, the difference. It feels like a feather and doesn't "glide" like the other large blades. This is more telling of technique and muscle memory with heavier larger blades, in my opinion.

Cheers!

ps-that being said, I can grab the 5/8 American steel that was honed for me on an 8k and I pushed it up to 12k and dry pass the back of my neck hair under the hair line and even do dry passes with to areas of the beard without irritation or blood letting(or mirror for that matter). This last bit is going to get me shouted at. again. ;)

after reading all comments it seems to be a combination of skill and a haunted blade. I will try using the paste and leather and if that don't work it will have to have a new home. thanks

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Originally Posted by rhensley

after reading all comments it seems to be a combination of skill and a haunted blade. I will try using the paste and leather and if that don't work it will have to have a new home. thanks

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Hahahaha...either that, or call Ghost Busters!!

looks like the paste and leather helped a lot. also I quite trying to skin myself. I think I was trying to get to close. after the 2 pass this time no matter what it felt like I quite. and 30 minutes later my face was as smooth as if I had done 2 more passes. live and learn. looks like the razor stays home. thanks:beer1: