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Is this angle normal? The side of the blade also makes contact with the side of the scale.
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Is this angle normal? The side of the blade also makes contact with the side of the scale.
Not Really normal,is a defect in construction.
what brand is that
Personally, I'd be making a rather irate phone call to whomever or wherever that razor came from!
BTW - Welcome to the forum! :)
It is a Dovo "silver steel"
As closing most razors, one side of the blade is going to hit the scale before the other. As long as it closes good, I would say not a problem. If you suspect the blade is warped, send it back.
Welcome to the forum. As Pixie said, I'd consider that a manufacturing flaw and would contact whomever you bought it from about resolving the issue. The blade should close in the center of the scales without touching either side.
Bob
Is it new or used? You also need to make sure it is shave ready & will need a strop if you already don't have one & also need to know how to use it. Also do you have a brush & soap yet?
What part of Houston do you live in? I live in the area & sharptonn does also. Either one of us might be of some help to you.
The blade should not touch the side when closing on a modern new straight razor. A little off center but not touching is ok. After all it is a straight razor and not a pocket knife. Some of the older ones the tang had a slight curve and would need help when closing in other words you just didn't snap it shut. These are delicate and personal tools . From the photo I see I would just use it and take care when closing it. Now that's just my Opinion. and welcome to the sport and place.
The "edge" should not touch the scales at all.
With any of my user blades,if the blade hits the scale,It is defective,plain and simple.
Not a big deal granted,but something that needs to be fixed.
Sharpton had it right. The blade is going to hit one side or the other first that is normal, as no razor is perfectly centered or ground. If it is the edge hitting a scale, that is another matter and should not be tolerated.
That statement is partially correct but I do have some straight razors, when manufactured correctly, are perfectly centered & close w/o the edge hitting the scales but I also have some straights that will hit one of the scales when closing & care should be used when closing. Some razors have a punched pivot hole in the blade & some have a drilled hole. Very many older Sheffield razors along with others as well have a punched hole & will close nicely centered when others will touch the scales when closing. Even when they close w/o touching, they still might be a little off center. This can be fixed with an oversized pivot if you go to the Library & look at gssixgun's article about sleeving oversized pivots. I had been doing this for a long time now & I will file the punched hole nice & round, then drill it with a 3/32" carbide drill bit or a 1/8" drill bit depending on how much the hole needs to be altered. The 3/32" brass tubing has a 1/16" ID for the pins to fit nicely. Sometimes a file is all you need & a piece of 3/32" brass tubing can be used but if the pivot hole is larger then you can file it or drill it a 1/8" hole & a piece of 3/32" brass tubing will fit inside a piece of 1/8" tubing.
Sleeving an oversized pivot - Straight Razor Place Library
Certainly, if you get right down to it. I bet that 99.6% of blades touch one scale or the other first. Get out some very thin feeler stock and check it. Its only a "problem" if the edge hits, up until that it is a matter of aesthetics (greater or lesser degree depending on how bad it is).
If it's new contact the vendor for a replacement. If it's not new you will probably have to have a conversation with the seller.
GonzalezBJJ, put up some further photos. Some of the senior/mentor/MODs/more experienced members here may be able to identify the problem. As already asked, was it bought new or secondhand? If it was new from a reputable dealer, then I'd return it.
I have a Boker that closed with the bevel edge very close to the scales. It shaves lovely so I didn't want to get rid of it. I fixed that by removing the scales and putting a pinning washer inside against the scale it was closest to. That fixed the problem for me.
An experienced member will probably be able to tell you whether there is a quick fix or if it's beyond help. Good luck.
IF the geometry of the blade is Proper,IF the scales are made properly,IF the Pinning was done Properly,The blade should center dead nutz between the scales at the toe of the blade,If not than something is defective.JMO
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[QUOTE=pixelfixed;1460213]IF the geometry of the blade is Proper,IF the scales are made properly,IF the Pinning was done Properly,The blade should center dead nutz between the scales at the toe of the blade,If not than something is defective.JMO
I think we have a misunderstanding here. Sure, the blade might contact the scales with the spine when closed but for the edge to contact the scales is not normal! A normal straight razor should center correctly!
Like pixelfixed said, "IF the geometry of the blade is Proper, IF the scales are made properly, IF the Pinning was done Properly, The blade should center dead nutz between the scales at the toe of the blade, If not than something is defective.JMO"
First off, it is a new razor I just received yesterday. I was looking at it a little closer and the scales took odd to me, but it being my first razor, I dont know whats normal. Thanks for all replies. It really helps with my next step. I think im going to send it back. I spoke to the company and they were very polite and seemed like they wanted to keep me happy. I told them the issue and he said because it has wooden scales warping is normal and if it doesn't touch the edge that I souldnt worry about it. He assured me that it had a look over before it was sent out but still left the option to send it in to be looked over again.
Sorry I cant figure out how to rotate these pics.
[QUOTE=engine46;1460218]To get to the facts. ALL properly made straights have the blade touch the scales. The edge/bevel should not. The OP did not specify whether the edge hit or not nor if the razor was new. By his latest post and pics, it is new and the poor blade fit is egregious enough I would return it.
I will stand by my statement that virtually all razors hit one scale or the other first (its just a matter of degree)
my thought is this !! you spent good $ on a NEW razor , and with being your first razor and noticing a issue , I would send it back if you were not happy and they would accept it back .. I maybe picky but when I purchase quality I hope my product arrives with nothing but beauty , but if your edge isn't hitting and you don't mind the appearance or feel then I guess congrats on your first razor and welcome to SRP
The razor in the picture would not in any way be acceptable to me as a new purchase. There is an obvious, abnormality with it and I would not be happy with it at all. Glad you are getting it straightened out.
Here it is rotated ;
Attachment 193246 looks like it is skewed. If you post a pic, like the ones pixelfixed posted, with the blade just entering the scales ...... not all the way in, it would be easier to see if there is a fix needed. :chapeau
Firstly don't stress, the good thing about this forum is we all like to get pretty specific about our hobby, there are a lot of differing opinions and that is a good thing when you are dealing with a precision instrument. I believe the question is simple, when you close the blade do you have to skew it to one side to miss the scales? Will the cutting edge make contact with the scales unless you correct the angle of the blade before it hits the scales? If this is the case definitely either return it and get another or take one of the guys up in your area on getting it fixed. From the pictures you have it looks a bit wonky but a picture of the blade just entering the scales would be helpful. Personally I would do both, go and see the guys to help you on your way and return the blade so that you can get one that is factory finished correctly. Welcome to the forum and give us a heads up on how you go.
If none of the blade hits the scales, what keeps the blade from swinging all the way through? :shrug:[/QUOTE]
Maybe the toe of the spine rather than the blade?
I have a couple of vintage blades that when fully opened flat look like bananas like your last pic, but when they close they are correctly centered, had me screwed how they did this, comes down to the skill of the pinner to make it right
I have straightened a 1" ATOR that had a good 1/4" plus bow in the tang when fully opened to neaten it up for a rescale.
Well, i went ahead and mailed it back today. Bottom line is that i am shure all the things said by the seller about wood warping and such is true, but, being a brand spanking new razor its defects that would come with age and use should be done in time, not when you get a brand new razor. Im shure they will do what it takes to make things right with the good demeaner the guy had on the phone. Worst thing about this is that i waitwd 5 months to pull the trigger to buy a strait razor and when i get one this happens. Oh well, ill just be patient. I think i convinced myself to buy a second one with this experience because in the future sending one out to get honed or whatever, i wont have to go without. Thanks for the help again, it helped me make my decision and avoided the possibility of a newbie to buy something subpar from the get go.
No, the username is just something I came up with when I joined since everything else I kept using was already taken. I actually used an old steam locomotive I saw in an old cowboy movie when I was signing up! I used to know quite a few firemen years ago when my dad had a shop across the street from one of the oldest standing fire departments in Houston. They have since moved into a new station but I think the building still stands. When it was first built, it was horse driven.
I hope you got the issue resolved! It sucks to have a new razor do that. It should have been checked before it was sent to you. I can see where you wold be discouraged after waiting so long to pull the trigger.
What part of Houston you live?
Where or who did you buy it from?, Can you return it?
That was crazy. I've gotten a razor put in wrong sized scales that was better aligned (and the toe came down between the wedge and the scale).