I am pretty new to SR shaving. I have about 30 shaves at this point. I have always used a two pass, WTG/ ATG plus clean up with all types of shaving, (cartridge, DE, Feather Artist Club, Straight.) When I started with a straight, I was using a DE for the ATG on my neck, jaw, and chin. The biggest thing for me to get a good ATG shave is being able to stretch the skin well. I saw a suggestion to rub my fingertips on my alum bar when streching the skin, as it would help me hold it steady, even with leftover lather on my face. That was a game changer for me, as it allows my razor to slide better on short strokes. I use a very shallow angle on the ATG pass, and if it feels uncomfortable, I stop. I have only gotten a true BBS once with a straight, but every shave is getting closer now.