FINALLY! I figured out how to go against grain on neck.

Ugh....how I wish my neck hairs grew straight down....anyway I finally figured out against grain shaving there. I used a butter knife to practice a bit and after the initial up and down strokes I put the razor in opposite hand and made a down stroke towards the opposite side.

So right side neck: left hand, start at chin, down but curve towards middle of neck. No cuts, did fine. Ditto for left side neck: right hand, start at chin, down but curve towards left shoulder.

Right neck baby bottom smooth, left neck close but not perfect. Practice will continue. :chapeau

I have to do mine like that, but opposite direction. Ear to base of throat. Then from side of neck to the chin.

I call it a X stroke.

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Mike that is neat, thanks for the pics. I am glad I am not alone in the struggle!

For some reason, I have a very, very sensitive section around my vocal cords and I shave that section carefully with a disposable. For the rest of my neck, it's shave up, against the grain and second pass shave down, with the grain. The end result is more than presentable.

The pics really make the clear to even the dullest of readers.... ;)

Thanks!

Wish that was all I had to do to get mine. My neck hairs go sideways in a couple of spots. I can get baby smooth on the cheeks, but even with multiple passes every which way I can never get the same on my neck. Steel wire tough red hair doesn't help maters either.

What I did was faceturbate on the way to work and think which direction I would have to go to get that on a 3rd pass. If you can remember, work that way next shave!
Before long, it will become habit.

ATG as far as I remember is, you got the hands correct Angles, but you start at the neck and go up towards the jaw line.

I think what you're describing and Outback is demonstrating is more a XTG or a scything stroke.

Here's a video of a pro, this is the video that got me into straight razor shaving, he used to be a member here as well.

6 years on, and I still love this video. When I saw the title, I thought at first he was going to shave with the butcher knife in the rack on the kitchen wall....:-)

I also learned a lot from watching this video a few hundred times when I started.

Behold the Master....his second pass, on the neck that's against the grain, and then when he lather up the second time, that's all ATG and XTG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q4IRoaJH34

I remember that! Dudes a badass!

Gotta love it, a cut to the chase no BS shave. No fancy gear or posh shave den either.

Bob

Less than four minutes. If I tried that the blood would be flowing!!

yeah ill look to him as future inspiration. For now, I'll stick the same technique mentioned above. Holy crap that guy is insane. How much beard growth did he take off like it did matter?

As I can only use my right hand (leftie is a rather untrustworthy shady dude) I havent figured out how to do ATG in the right side of my neck only the left. I can do an across the grain and that seems to work pretty well though.

I have had the same trouble with getting a bbs on my neck. It took a good year and a half of practice to get a bbs result. I have to do a scything motion from under my ear to my Adam’s apple with no pressure what so ever to get a close, irritation free shave on my neck.

Practice and beard mapping is really what made it possible for me. I also have some hair swirls on the side of my neck thrown in for good measure. In those spots beard mapping was crucial.

Matt1222,

I am with you there BUT just now, I did my best performance yet on my neck. Oddly enough, I am actually better using my weak hand on the right side than I am using my strong hand on the left!

The good news is, I am getting better.

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ATG as far as I remember is, you got the hands correct Angles, but you start at the neck and go up towards the jaw line.

I think what you're describing and Outback is demonstrating is more a XTG or a scything stroke.

Here's a video of a pro, this is the video that got me into straight razor shaving, he used to be a member here as well.

6 years on, and I still love this video. When I saw the title, I thought at first he was going to shave with the butcher knife in the rack on the kitchen wall....:-)

I also learned a lot from watching this video a few hundred times when I started.

Behold the Master....his second pass, on the neck that's against the grain, and then when he lather up the second time, that's all ATG and XTG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q4IRoaJH34

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That guy certainly is "manly!" :)

He's also blessed with downwards growth on his neck.......I wish my neck hairs grew that direction. Then I could shave my neck against the grain with one simple pass......not the two I do now. :( *This guy cut himself at least once on the chin also, you can see the blood flow for just a moment during the shave.

My pics are of what I do after a vertical ATG pass. Its what I have to do to pick up the stragglers in my smashed wire brush, beard. :D

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That guy certainly is "manly!" :)

He's also blessed with downwards growth on his neck.......I wish my neck hairs grew that direction. Then I could shave my neck against the grain with one simple pass......not the two I do now. :( *This guy cut himself at least once on the chin also, you can see the blood flow for just a moment during the shave.

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I wish I could do that. My neck hairs grow in every possible direction. I have a beard and the only thing I can use my SR for on my neck is to define the jawline of my beard. If I want a really close shave, I use a DE to finish the neck with the grain, against the grain, across the grain, across the grain the other way and a whole bunch of random short strokes to pick up the stragglers. Otherwise, I’m happy with BBS on my cheeks and a tad rough on my neck.

That's how I do it, just switch hands. I lather up twice, once for the right hand and again for the left.

pretty much every ones neck hair goes in all directions, my beard was like copper wire before it turned white now its tungsten, and the neck hairs go in 4-5 directions, but WTG seems to do the trick with a 2cd buffing stroke across the grain,, my wife doesn't complain. its just up to us to map it out and do the proper stroke, but ATG needs a well honed blade to do it without irritation,,, and as you get a year or so behind you it will be second nature then. now to be honest not many experienced guys go for BBS every shave, a DFS is good enough cause I don't know about you but women don't just walk up to me in the street and see if I,m BBS. and if a guy does it he will not wake up for a while.

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I don't know about you but women don't just walk up to me in the street and see if I,m BBS. and if a guy does it he will not wake up for a while.

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TC, it looks like you need a few of my "old widow women and divorcees" to give you a Sunday morning beard check.
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TC, it looks like you need a few of my "old widow women and divorcees" to give you a Sunday morning beard check.
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Benz theres only one Old Widow Women and Divorcees groupie out there and you got them all! I cant compete with that, so far the wife keeps them away from me at church. Tc

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pretty much every ones neck hair goes in all directions, my beard was like copper wire before it turned white now its tungsten, and the neck hairs go in 4-5 directions, but WTG seems to do the trick with a 2cd buffing stroke across the grain,, my wife doesn't complain. its just up to us to map it out and do the proper stroke, but ATG needs a well honed blade to do it without irritation,,, and as you get a year or so behind you it will be second nature then. now to be honest not many experienced guys go for BBS every shave, a DFS is good enough cause I don't know about you but women don't just walk up to me in the street and see if I,m BBS. and if a guy does it he will not wake up for a while.

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That's true, ATG isn't something I need to do each time but I see it as a "challenge" so I pursue it with vigor.