Hey Folks,

So the one area that's been pretty elusive for me is my upper lip. I've tried doing the coup d' maitre followed by an edge-to-middle pass (I'd say that's like a XTG/ATG pass for me), I've also just done a two-pass combo of middle-to-edge then edge-to-middle. Today I tried puffing out my lip with air instead of pulling my lip over my teeth - an absolute failure, complete with a 1/4" slice. My few attempts at the Fool's Pass didn't feel right from the start, and I didn't want to push through and wind up without a nose.

Anyway, it seems I just can't get much better than "invisible stubble": feels smooth going N-S and E-W/W-E, but feels pretty rough going S-N. I am feeling my upper lip while it's curled over my teeth. When I relax my lip or make half a kissy-face, it's BBS in every direction. I don't know... Maybe I'm too hopeful?

I've watched videos and done this a bunch of times, but I'm hoping someone's got a tip that makes it easier to get this right. More/less stretching? Some tip on blade angle? Name of a good OCD therapist?