Attachment 224602Attachment 224603 Don't know how long it will be before i can start work on them but i won these off the bay. The first is a Wade and Butcher near W. 5/8 and the second is a Manhatten cuttlery I think is a 6/8. The wade and butcher i believe just needs a good cleaning a polishing and honing. the Manhatten needs the same but also scales. I think i have a set of bone scales that will fit it also the providence blade that i made scales for and the blade is junk the scales may work just fine. We'll see. at any rate it will be a least a couple of months before i give them a try. My hands shake too bad right now to try to unpin and repin. I don't do good with pain meds.