And Joseph said unto thee...buy me a 15/16 and an 8/8

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03-05-2012, 04:33 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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And Joseph said unto thee...buy me a 15/16 and an 8/8

Here for your viewing pleasure are 2 cut throats that I have recently added to my collection .

15/16 Joseph Elliot "Best Silver Steel with what looks like dark horn scales.

8/8 Joseph Smith & Sons "Celebrated Razor 3415" with The Old English Razor written on the scales

I was using the SRP database to try to estimate their age based on their tails and I came up with between 1810 and 1845. I'm impressed. I love when people quote about what was happening in this country based on manufactures dates...One I read said something like..there were 3 stars and 1 stripe on the American flag at the time...LOL

Thanks for looking
03-05-2012, 05:02 AM
Earthdawn

Both are AWESOME ... Really nice. I like the style of them both....

But that 8/8 Joseph Smith & Sons is exceptional. Id love to see a head on shot of the blade.

Is the spine even all the way across or does it have a different angle on the second half ?
03-05-2012, 05:14 AM
Carpefor

Pretty cute ones!

The tang of Joseph Elliot's seems to be special, I guess that notch isn't original!?
03-05-2012, 05:19 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

The razor has an assemetrical spine. I didn't even to look to see if the design was the same on both sides. I assumed that I was but it's not.
I hope that it was actually made like that. (I'm crying softly on the inside) You can get the best glimpse of it in pic 4. You can see the variation in shadow and lit surface. I will take another shot soon.

Thanks C.M. Pheonix

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Originally Posted by Earthdawn

Both are AWESOME ... Really nice. I like the style of them both....

But that 8/8 Joseph Smith & Sons is exceptional. Id love to see a head on shot of the blade.

Is the spine even all the way across or does it have a different angle on the second half ?
03-05-2012, 05:25 AM
Earthdawn

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is the spine like this one ?

http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...n-micarta.html
03-05-2012, 05:40 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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Yes sir. Def not as pronounced but yes. Is that why people put tape on the spine while honing? So that doesn't happen...LOL
03-05-2012, 05:42 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

Any thoughts on why they are made like that?
03-05-2012, 05:49 AM
EisenFaust

Yea thats some sort of functional anomaly that we see occasionally on old Sheffields. I don't think anyone is certain of the purpose. Might simply be aesthetic. Two gorgeous razors by the way!
03-05-2012, 06:10 PM
globaldev

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Originally Posted by cheetahmeatpheonix

Yes sir. Def not as pronounced but yes. Is that why people put tape on the spine while honing? So that doesn't happen...LOL

i think that's designed in for beauty, not hone wear...

very nice blades... i like.
03-05-2012, 06:37 PM
Firefighter2

Very nice, I like the etching on the scales. Where did you find these?
03-05-2012, 10:13 PM
cheetahmeatpheonix

All of my razors have come from ebay. i've tried to find some locally when I go antique shopping but I haven't scored anything like some members.
I like ebay cause I can search globally for things that I might not be able to find (at a reasonable price) around here. I have a Puma and a Filarmonica that came from spain and some others that came from Canada and the UK. So it makes for stories to tell other than just the manufactures history. I mean we really just buy these and "hold" them for the next generation of shavers/collectors worldwide.

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Originally Posted by Firefighter2

Very nice, I like the etching on the scales. Where did you find these?
03-06-2012, 01:54 AM
Firefighter2

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Originally Posted by cheetahmeatpheonix

All of my razors have come from ebay. i've tried to find some locally when I go antique shopping but I haven't scored anything like some members.
I like ebay cause I can search globally for things that I might not be able to find (at a reasonable price) around here. I have a Puma and a Filarmonica that came from spain and some others that came from Canada and the UK. So it makes for stories to tell other than just the manufactures history. I mean we really just buy these and "hold" them for the next generation of shavers/collectors worldwide.

Thanks for the reply, I try to stay away from E-Bay because the bidding always goes too high, but you've shown that you can get some good finds. Please post pics of your Puma & Filarmonica, I'm sure the community would like to see em'.
03-06-2012, 04:17 AM
Wullie

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Originally Posted by Firefighter2

Thanks for the reply, I try to stay away from E-Bay because the bidding always goes too high, but you've shown that you can get some good finds. Please post pics of your Puma & Filarmonica, I'm sure the community would like to see em'.

IF you watch enough and pay attention, every now and then you can nail a decent deal at the "bay". I've bought several nice razors for decent money. Just keep pecking at it. As one member here said "bid low and bid often". ;)
03-06-2012, 02:50 PM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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Originally Posted by Firefighter2

Thanks for the reply, I try to stay away from E-Bay because the bidding always goes too high, but you've shown that you can get some good finds. Please post pics of your Puma & Filarmonica, I'm sure the community would like to see em'.

Here is the thread to the Filarmonica
http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...ola-today.html

I haven't taken pictures of the puma yet

The comments that I got so far have been really positive on SRP

I need to slow down though. I won 6 in the last week or so
8/8 W&B - For Barber Use
7/8 GEO. WOSTENHOLM & SONS FRAME BACK IXL SHEFFIELD
5/8 W&B WEDGE "YOU LATHER WELL I'LL SHAVE WELL"
3/4 W&B "THE CELEBRATED ANGLO-SAXON CONCAVE RAZOR" POSSIBLE FAUX FRAMEBACK
13/16 W. GREAVES & SONS SHEAF WORKS "AMERICAN RAZOR" WITH EAGLE ETCHING
3/4 RUSTY Solingen "8118" THAT I WILL HAVE TO HAVE RESTORED
7/8 RUSTY ADOLPH Arbenz Paris THAT I WILL HAVE TO HAVE RESTORED

...and you're right it does get expensive
03-06-2012, 04:36 PM
jay88

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Originally Posted by cheetahmeatpheonix

Here is the thread to the Filarmonica
http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...ola-today.html

I haven't taken pictures of the puma yet

The comments that I got so far have been really positive on SRP

I need to slow down though. I won 6 in the last week or so
8/8 W&B - For Barber Use
7/8 GEO. WOSTENHOLM & SONS FRAME BACK IXL SHEFFIELD
5/8 W&B WEDGE "YOU LATHER WELL I'LL SHAVE WELL"
3/4 W&B "THE CELEBRATED ANGLO-SAXON CONCAVE RAZOR" POSSIBLE FAUX FRAMEBACK
13/16 W. GREAVES & SONS SHEAF WORKS "AMERICAN RAZOR" WITH EAGLE ETCHING
3/4 RUSTY Solingen "8118" THAT I WILL HAVE TO HAVE RESTORED
7/8 RUSTY ADOLPH Arbenz Paris THAT I WILL HAVE TO HAVE RESTORED

...and you're right it does get expensive

dang!! building you an army pretty quick
03-06-2012, 06:28 PM
Firefighter2

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Originally Posted by cheetahmeatpheonix

Here is the thread to the Filarmonica
http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...ola-today.html

I haven't taken pictures of the puma yet

The comments that I got so far have been really positive on SRP

I need to slow down though. I won 6 in the last week or so
8/8 W&B - For Barber Use
7/8 GEO. WOSTENHOLM & SONS FRAME BACK IXL SHEFFIELD
5/8 W&B WEDGE "YOU LATHER WELL I'LL SHAVE WELL"
3/4 W&B "THE CELEBRATED ANGLO-SAXON CONCAVE RAZOR" POSSIBLE FAUX FRAMEBACK
13/16 W. GREAVES & SONS SHEAF WORKS "AMERICAN RAZOR" WITH EAGLE ETCHING
3/4 RUSTY Solingen "8118" THAT I WILL HAVE TO HAVE RESTORED
7/8 RUSTY ADOLPH Arbenz Paris THAT I WILL HAVE TO HAVE RESTORED

...and you're right it does get expensive

Beautiful scales on that Filarmonica. Very nice, I've never seen that shade of blue on a razor before. Thanks.