The White Elephant - Joseph Elliot For Barbers Use Straight Razor

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10-27-2012, 09:36 PM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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The White Elephant - Joseph Elliot For Barbers Use Straight Razor

Ebay listing:
This razor came from an Old New England Barbers estate.
It has an Horn Handle, Blade edge is 2 1/2" with Barber notch
Handle is 6", Marked: Joseph Elliot - For Barber's Use with maker symbols,
no cleaning done as some collectors prefer original aging condition.

Hey y'all. I see some of you guys have missed me while I was away...LOL Work has been killing me lately and I have been saving up to move to Austin Texas to be closer to my surrogate fathers Wullie and Sharptonn but I just snagged this about an hour ago in the good ole Cheetah Meat "last second fashion".

I have to say I am really impressed with the look of this razor. This razor screams classy. I love the lines. Of course i don't have it in hand yet but returning that so called 10/8s W&B paved the way for this purchase which looks well worth the price paid. I don't know the width of the blade but it def looks closer to an 8/8 (I hope!). I don't think I've seen this "look" before where the tang is really this thick. This, I think, would be called a frameback and i think there is some "shoulder action" happening. Someone feel free to chime in. I'm really excited though. By the looks of the tail it's not the oldest razor in the box but I think it will clean up well.

Thanks

Cheetah
10-27-2012, 09:57 PM
Martin103

I agree looks like a perfect candidate for restoration and the blade lines look really good to me, keep us updated!
10-27-2012, 10:06 PM
Jimbo

That looks like a nice blade. I wouldn't call that a frameback - it has been ground that way, and I consider a frameback to be one with a separate blade piece. Maybe it is what they call a faux frameback, but I just call it a wedge with a hone-friendly spine grind.

Anyway, I think that will clean up well, and be a good shaver. Elliots usually are.

James.
10-27-2012, 11:29 PM
JSmith1983

Post the weight of that razor once you get it cause I am interested. Looks like it would weigh quite abit. The thickness of that tang is massive looking. It should defiantly clean up.
10-27-2012, 11:32 PM
TrilliumLT

I have 2 W&Bs with that same profile. Awesome shavers. Very nice.
10-27-2012, 11:37 PM
regularjoe

I thought that razor looked awesome in the pics. But it was out of my ballpark at the starting bid. I watched it for awhile, but when it didn't get interesting, I dropped it from the watchlist. lol. Can't wait to see it when it's done!
10-27-2012, 11:46 PM
cheetahmeatpheonix

So this is the 2nd time in about 2 weeks that I've been HAD...and this is the 2nd time that I've bought a razor that has been genetically "modified". I love this razor of course but one day I will get it through my thick skull that razors back then NEVER had this gently sloping shape from the heel edge of the blade to the tang.

Research more before you purchase. Learn from my mistakes. I'm so *&^%$# pissed for doing this again. I still love it though:)

It's supposed to look like this..of course in freakin' hind sight
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10-27-2012, 11:57 PM
TrilliumLT

I dont know but it looks orginal to me.
10-28-2012, 12:01 AM
Tylerbrycen

I'd like to know what you do cheeta because you have monster blades
10-28-2012, 12:15 AM
ScienceGuy

I was on this one too but didn't want to go that high. It is either a faux frameback or a concave. I've seen some J Elliot Barbers use but not in this shape. I was also suspicious of bidding because this exact same razor was sold on ebay a couple weeks ago from New England and then turned up in this auction. I asked and she said she was selling it for a friend. Hopefully no probs with it. Nice score, that's a sweet razor.
10-28-2012, 12:18 AM
earcutter

That's a great looking blade. Would love to own it myself!
10-28-2012, 12:27 AM
Wullie

Nice catch, I was watching that one and at 12 minutes to go, decided to let you or whoever came out on top have it. :)

It is a great looking old razor.

When you gonna get primed and use of those 300 sump'n pieces of BIG iron to shave with or stir paint with? :p

Saving your money to move to AUSTIN?

My kinfolk founded that dump. NONE of us live anywhere close now.:rofl2:
10-28-2012, 03:14 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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Originally Posted by regularjoe

Umm, my dear cheetah fellow, I believe you are mistaken. Here's a William Revitt with the same sloping heel to tang design. Mine's not nearly as big, and not nearly as obvious, but this is an original blade design. Unless both of us got a razor from the same dastardly razor regrinder. Which, although not entirely out there, isn't likely IMO. I believe your blade is shaped just as it was intended to be, and just as it was originally sold. I believe it's a result of the way these particulars faux framebacks were ground.

UMMM dear regular fellow. posted bellow is a detailed graph of what I believe is the "altered" area on my razors. In this post if you read #18 you will see holli4pirating response to what I was referring to. I hope this graph helps. it took me several minute to make and I increased the size of the pink arrows several times just incase you don't click on the links provided.
10-28-2012, 03:30 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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Originally Posted by JSmith1983

Post the weight of that razor once you get it cause I am interested. Looks like it would weigh quite abit. The thickness of that tang is massive looking. It should defiantly clean up.

I don't have a scale that could weigh it. Maybe a post office scale?
10-28-2012, 03:32 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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Originally Posted by TrilliumLT

I have 2 W&Bs with that same profile. Awesome shavers. Very nice.

Can you post what they look like por favor?
10-28-2012, 03:36 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

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Originally Posted by Tylerbrycen

I'd like to know what you do cheeta because you have monster blades

I work as a graphic/fashion designer in New York City. I'm currently employed by one of the major sports leagues that is not on strike right now but had a serious issue with referees earlier this season.

Cheetah
10-28-2012, 07:20 AM
EisenFaust

The White Elephant - Joseph Elliot For Barbers Use Straight Razor

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Originally Posted by cheetahmeatpheonix

bellow is a detailed graph of what I believe is the "altered" area on my razors.

Right, ginormous pink arrow no. 2 - definitely altered. Your latest purchase however, hence forth known as 'humongous pink arrow no. 1' is, IMO, as first conceived. Enjoy ;)
11-13-2012, 06:25 AM
cheetahmeatpheonix

So this blade finally showed up today. Thank you Hurricane Sandy you suck. I got the measuring stick out and it's a whopping 17/16. I'm happy with the blade overall. It's really heavy but I have no way of weighing it. The one thing is that it doesn't close center so when I send it out to for restoration I will have to ask to have it close properly.

Today is a good day. I turn over ebay to you wonderful people. I am on a hiatus now while I finish moving.

King Cheetah..lol
11-13-2012, 03:39 PM
sheffieldlover

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Originally Posted by EisenFaust

Right, ginormous pink arrow no. 2 - definitely altered. Your latest purchase however, hence forth known as 'humongous pink arrow no. 1' is, IMO, as first conceived. Enjoy ;)

Agreed. Definitely looks "as first conceived." :)