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vladsch Forums seem to be loosing the... 05-17-2006, 05:31 PM
sensei_kyle I haven't noticed it. ... 05-17-2006, 05:52 PM
gfoster It's done that for me since I... 05-17-2006, 05:56 PM
rtaylor61 I'm lazy. I just click on... 05-17-2006, 05:58 PM
Tony Miller New posts link???!!! You... 05-17-2006, 06:15 PM
sensei_kyle Yep. On the menu bar on the... 05-17-2006, 06:21 PM
Joe Lerch Me too! That's how I find... 05-23-2006, 02:29 AM
vladsch I just checked and New Posts... 05-21-2006, 06:50 PM
azjoe vlad et al... sorry you're... 05-22-2006, 04:45 AM
Joe Lerch I seem to hve a timeout... 05-23-2006, 02:37 AM
rtaylor61 Joe, This happened to me... 05-23-2006, 03:38 AM
azjoe I've had that happen to me on... 05-23-2006, 03:22 PM
azjoe Ha! I checked on spell... 05-24-2006, 06:26 AM
vladsch It is the timeout of the... 05-22-2006, 05:28 AM
azjoe Remember, its 15-min of... 05-22-2006, 06:02 AM
vladsch azjoe, Just remember that... 05-22-2006, 06:45 AM
azjoe Of course. Here's a quote... 05-22-2006, 03:54 PM
xman What about a compromise,... 05-22-2006, 04:02 PM
azjoe 1800 = 30-min... :hmmm:... 05-22-2006, 05:06 PM
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    Unhappy Forums seem to be loosing the Unread message status

    The forums seem to be screwing up the read/unread message flags, again.

    Am I the only one to notice it so far?

    I remember we had this problem quite a few months ago and it was hell tracking new posts, back then there was less to track too.

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    I haven't noticed it. Everything seems to be working OK for me. Using Firefox at both home & work. I wonder if it's something to do with cookies?

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    It's done that for me since I signed up. I have to "walk the tree" back up out of each forum in order for it to catch the status change... meaning I have to scroll back to the top of the page, click on the next link up (usually the forum name), then click back to the "straight razor place" top link and then go down into the next area. If I do it any other way it doesn't register as read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfoster
    It's done that for me since I signed up. I have to "walk the tree" back up out of each forum in order for it to catch the status change... meaning I have to scroll back to the top of the page, click on the next link up (usually the forum name), then click back to the "straight razor place" top link and then go down into the next area. If I do it any other way it doesn't register as read.

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    I'm lazy. I just click on the New Posts button when I visit the site. In fact, my shortcut takes me directly to the forum. The home page could be eliminated, and I would never know.

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    New posts link???!!! You learn something new every day. I got to get out of the basement more often

    I never noticed that before.

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    Yep. On the menu bar on the top of the forum there's a "Quick Links" drop down. Included there are "New Posts" & "Mark Forums Read". I've been using that for many months now and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensei_kyle
    Yep. On the menu bar on the top of the forum there's a "Quick Links" drop down. Included there are "New Posts" & "Mark Forums Read". I've been using that for many months now and love it.
    Even that is too much work...look to the left of the "Quick Links" button. That's the New Posts button I use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtaylor61
    I'm lazy. I just click on the New Posts button when I visit the site. In fact, my shortcut takes me directly to the forum. The home page could be eliminated, and I would never know.
    Me too! That's how I find new threads. Once I'm in a thread I get notifications by e-mail when there are new posts.

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    I just checked and New Posts looses unread messages also.

    I noticed that when I take a too long to compose a reply to a post then unread status disappears eventhough I have not had a chance to read any other posts.

    This is exactly what was going on for few months around Dec. The forums look like there is not much traffic until I start going through thread by thread checking for new posts. Lately, I don't have time to do this and wind up missing most posts.

    The e-mail notification at the end of the day works fine, so at least I can keep track of those threads that I have already posted to.

    It would be nice if the unread status started working again.

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    vlad et al... sorry you're having a problem.

    In general the 'new posts' search works fairly well (regardless of whether you call it from the new post link on the navbar or the search drop-down). I believe it relies on cookies to work, so if you have cookies disabled, set to clear when you exit your browser, or you take too long and your session times out (which appears to be at least partly the cause of the problem you're reporting) the results will be unreliable.

    Personally, when I open the forum, the first thing I do is click 'new posts'... that way I capture all the new posts (in that tab of firefox, which is the browser I use). I then open the ones I want to read in new tabs... that way, no matter what, I still have the first tab containing all the new posts. If you're an IE browser user, I guess you could open them in a new window... but that's really cumbersome compared to tabs. (If you havn't tried firefox you should... it's a really nice browser... an it's free.)

    FWIW, I believe I read somewhere that newer versions of the forum software can keep track of the read status in the database instead of using cookies... and it supposedly works much more reliably. We'll look into that when we next upgrade the forum. ...joe

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    edit:

    I checked the latest version (3.5.4) of the forum software (which we haven't installed -- we are running 3.0.8)... here's a quote for one of the new config items:

    This option controls how threads and forums are marked as read.

    1. Inactivity/Cookie Based - once a user has been inactive for a certain amount of time (the value of the cookie timeout option [ed. -- default is 900-seconds]) all threads and forums are considered read. Individual threads are marked as read within a session via cookies. This option is how all versions of vBulletin before 3.5 functioned.

    2. Database (no automatic forum marking) - this option uses the database to store thread and forum read times. This allows accurate read markers to be kept indefinitely. However, in order for a forum to be marked read when all threads are read, the user must view the list of threads for that forum.

    This option is more space and processor intensive than inactivity-based marking.

    3. Database (automatic forum marking) - this option is the same as a previous option, but forums are automatically marked as read when the last new thread is read.

    This is the most usable option for end users, but most processor intensive.
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