Williams Mug

Round 2.

Let water sit on puck while showering then loaded badger brush( soaked in scuttle and shaken out) for 45 seconds. Face lathering produced a bubbly lather that just wouldn't thicken l. First pass with DE razor wasn't very good. Sickness was there but not cushion. Like the first time I used this soap the lather just started to fade away.

Squeezed the brush out and dumped the lather. Loaded brush again and added a trickle of water to the tips. Lather started to thicken with face lathering but, never developed into a thick, creamy lather. Second pass shaving went a little smoother but still not there.

I think I will try grating the puck and adding glycerin for round 3.

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Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings

Round 2.

Let water sit on puck while showering then loaded badger brush( soaked in scuttle and shaken out) for 45 seconds. Face lathering produced a bubbly lather that just wouldn't thicken l. First pass with DE razor wasn't very good. Sickness was there but not cushion. Like the first time I used this soap the lather just started to fade away.

Squeezed the brush out and dumped the lather. Loaded brush again and added a trickle of water to the tips. Lather started to thicken with face lathering but, never developed into a thick, creamy lather. Second pass shaving went a little smoother but still not there.

I think I will try grating the puck and adding glycerin for round 3.

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To my personal experience i dont know what i make different but i get the lather i want whit Williams, the lather is thick enough, the slickness is there so has the cushion. I dont use any glycerin neither that i grated the puck, the only thing i use is water. Is it the way i built my lather?? Anyway the the results i get are really good, to me if the resuts where not there i will not used it. Gino

Round 3.

This week I grated the puck and mixed in 1oz. of glycerin, then pressed it down in my mug. Although the lather for today's shave was better than previous attempts with Williams, it was still filled with small bubbles and started to dissipate when I put the brush down. I decided to dump the Williams lather and washed my face. I re-lathered with Arko and had a pretty decent shave. I don't expect to shave with Williams again. If Williams is discontinued I will send Papabear my unopened puck.

Have you tried different brushes.
Only works for me with a large badger

No. I only have one brush, a 21 mm fine badger. I'm not sure a different brush would make a difference. I can make a great lather using both tallow-based and glycerin-based soaps using this brush. Williams is the only soap I have failed with at lather making. Above all else, this is a learning experience for me. I have enough other soaps to last me a decade. I'm just disappointed I missed out on trying earlier versions of this classic.

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Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings

No. I only have one brush, a 21 mm fine badger. I'm not sure a different brush would make a difference. I can make a great lather using both tallow-based and glycerin-based soaps using this brush. Williams is the only soap I have failed with at lather making. Above all else, this is a learning experience for me. I have enough other soaps to last me a decade. I'm just disappointed I missed out on trying earlier versions of this classic.

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For me it work's whit any kind of descent brush so i dont think that is the issue. I guess some soaps work for some and not for other's, Williams work very well for me and i dont have any issue to make it work. Like i said in earlier thread Williams it's not my best shaving soap but to me it's a good soap.

Brushes can make a difference, although any brush can achieve the goal if you compensate for the brushes characteristics. Williams soap needs water and sufficient product to work for the fastest results you need to get a stiffer brush either a 2 band badger or even better something like an omega boar for this one. The soap releases product slowly its a hard soap and most of these pucks are a bit dried out, you cant be cheap with it, that's why you always hear people say bloom it in water to soften it up and so on. If you have a more aggressive brush it will pick up product faster than a floppy brush which I find more ideal for cream lathering tbh. Soak it work it hard add water as needed and i feel you will get it to do what i always thought it did pretty well for and inexpensive soap. i never had problems with this soap and thought it shaved fairly well. No need to compare it to soaps that cost 4 and 5 times as much it wont deliver that experience but it works and it will teach you a lot about lathering.

Considering Williams is about the least inexpensive shave soap you can get in Canada, $1.44 CAD/49 grams, you might say it is a wonder it works as well as it does/doesn't. Oth you don't have to look at soaps that cost 4 to 5 times as much to see huge increases in performance. Palmolive shave sticks @ $3.92 CAD/ 50grams or Arko shave sticks @ $3.92 CAD/75 grams are miles ahead in performance. Paying the extra for either Palmolive or Arko is, for me, really worth the extra money. Neither Arko or Palmolive are bank busters.

Bob

Just a refresh i'm at 145 pucks of Williams and i still bought some on occasions. It works for me so it's a bargain, by the way Williams is not discontinued.

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Originally Posted by Papabear11

by the way Williams is not discontinued.

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Now you tell me.