soapers'

Hi all,
I am tossing around the idea of a well,conditionings, lathering soap that could be used for shaving, washing. And shampoo/contioner .
And wonder if this could be accomplished with
Tallow, lye, bentonite clay? Or would I need to add another oil like sweet almond oil to prevent cloging pores?

well most lousy shave soaps end up as shower soap or for the dog, but I don't see a benefit to a soap that is everything to all purposes. I mean if you want you could use your shampoo for everything and do the dishes with it. but any product that is multi use may not be as good as the products that are made for each purpose. I don't even like the body washes that claim to be multi use. they work ok but not as good as my bar soap for my body and my shampoo that I use on my hair. but hey if your into creating something I,m sure someone will try it. got to be some out there that cant figure out which soap to use while in the shower Tc

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Originally Posted by tcrideshd

well most lousy shave soaps end up as shower soap or for the dog, but I don't see a benefit to a soap that is everything to all purposes. I mean if you want you could use your shampoo for everything and do the dishes with it. but any product that is multi use may not be as good as the products that are made for each purpose. I don't even like the body washes that claim to be multi use. they work ok but not as good as my bar soap for my body and my shampoo that I use on my hair. but hey if your into creating something I,m sure someone will try it. got to be some out there that cant figure out which soap to use while in the shower Tc

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True, I wasn't thinking the soap properties would be vastly different but was hoppind it would work out to cut down on the number of soaps on the dopp kit

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Originally Posted by whoever

True, I wasn't thinking the soap properties would be vastly different but was hoppind it would work out to cut down on the number of soaps on the dopp kit

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Just take a bar of bath soap, lather it up or at least try to and shave. You'll see real quick where it is lacking in the properties a good shave soap will have. It would really be a jack of all trades and master at none situation. I can tell you a bar of Ivory soap is not a good substitute for a real shave soap from experience.

Bob

My wife uses Mitchell Wool Fat Bath soap.

I tried to shave with it but it did not lather and had no glide.

Trying to get a soap to do everything will be a challenge.

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Originally Posted by BobH

Just take a bar of bath soap, lather it up or at least try to and shave. You'll see real quick where it is lacking in the properties a good shave soap will have. It would really be a jack of all trades and master at none situation. I can tell you a bar of Ivory soap is not a good substitute for a real shave soap from experience.

Bob

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Ivory does sound like a painful shave

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Originally Posted by rolodave

My wife uses Mitchell Wool Fat Bath soap.

I tried to shave with it but it did not lather and had no glide.

Trying to get a soap to do everything will be a challenge.

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Oits looking that way a shampoo bar just doent produce lather that will hold, and a shave puck will disappear quickly compared to bath soap, each soap has at least one quality that would not work for the other usees.

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Originally Posted by whoever

Ivory does sound like a painful shave

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Ha, Ivory doesn't even serve well as a bath soap. It's way too mild. Maybe for a baby it's good.

Ivory soap is like trying to use half and half as milk

It is funny to hear ivory bath soap being called too mild and fit for a baby's delicate skin when you have shavers blowing big bucks on shave soaps that pamper their skin like you would want for a baby's bottom. What can I say, it's a puzzle to me.

Bob

When folks talk about shaving soaps they rarely mention how mild or strong a soap is. It's the guys with allergies and hyper sensitive skin who will report irritation. The qualities of a great shave soap don't include mildness or heavy duty cleaning capabilities.

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Originally Posted by BobH

It is funny to hear ivory bath soap being called too mild and fit for a baby's delicate skin when you have shavers blowing big bucks on shave soaps that pamper their skin like you would want for a baby's bottom. What can I say, it's a puzzle to me.

Bob

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S-hhhhhhhhh, you'll ruin our image ... Keep quiet about the kitties too :deal::nj:beer2:

In all my years of experimenting with bath/shower soaps I have only encountered two that are worth a good bowel movement. Those are Dove Men Care and Kirks Castile in the green bar. Unfortunately Kirks in the green bar is no longer available. Both are stand alone soaps that deliver a boat load of thick slick lather with my hard well water.

The closest thing I have found to a shaving, facial, bath soap is Yardley of London Cocoa Butter soap.

https://www.amazon.com/Yardley-Londo...01IADZO1I?th=1

The ingredients are: sodium tallowlate, water, sodium cocoate, glycerine, cocoa butter, fragrance, shea butter, Vitamin E, salt, titanium dioxide, EDTA, iron oxide. Yellow 3, Red 3.

From a shaving standpoint, it is a tallow based soap with some titanium dioxide and iron oxide pigments to stabilize the lather. Cocoa butter and shea butter are good skin conditioners. This is an English milled bar, meaning it is a hard soap, but not triple milled hard. It has a nice smell and and produces a decent later.

It is certainly not as good the better soaps designed specifically for shaving, but if you want an inexpensive soap for bathing as well as shaving, this one will work. You can purchase two bars for $6.

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Originally Posted by RayClem

The closest thing I have found to a shaving, facial, bath soap is Yardley of London Cocoa Butter soap.

https://www.amazon.com/Yardley-Londo...01IADZO1I?th=1

The ingredients are: sodium tallowlate, water, sodium cocoate, glycerine, cocoa butter, fragrance, shea butter, Vitamin E, salt, titanium dioxide, EDTA, iron oxide. Yellow 3, Red 3.

From a shaving standpoint, it is a tallow based soap with some titanium dioxide and iron oxide pigments to stabilize the lather. Cocoa butter and shea butter are good skin conditioners. This is an English milled bar, meaning it is a hard soap, but not triple milled hard. It has a nice smell and and produces a decent later.

It is certainly not as good the better soaps designed specifically for shaving, but if you want an inexpensive soap for bathing as well as shaving, this one will work. You can purchase two bars for $6.

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Why does that not surprise me? When Yardley made shave soap it was excellent stuff if my vintage puck is any example.

Bob

I use Kirk's Castile coconut oil soap for body and what little hair I have left. Have used it for shaving it is about like William's IMO. Maybe if you grind then melt and pour add bentonite clay or fragrance, what about some glycerin? Wish you best of luck this.

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Originally Posted by Alwaysbeencrazy45

I use Kirk's Castile coconut oil soap for body and what little hair I have left. Have used it for shaving it is about like William's IMO. Maybe if you grind then melt and pour add bentonite clay or fragrance, what about some glycerin? Wish you best of luck this.

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I'm still thinking on this, kirks castle sounds close to what I'm trying to do, will hsve to give that a try

If you use distilled or softened water basic liquid green soap (the kind water treatment salesmen carry with them) is about the purist soap you can find to use as a base.