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With basically most of what this guys says other than the stretching and directional stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKg5r...layer_embedded
Fair enough he's using a DE and it works for him and I'm a noob and no expert by any stretch but.. collective wisdom works for me..
I just watched the video, and I have to ask - what is it that you find so disagreeable about this man's techniques? With shaving YMMV, but this is all textbook stuff.....
maybe "basically most" was overstating it.. my apologies, mainly the lathering part bothered me. As i said, the stretching and directional stuff worked for me. And everyone has their own way i guess..
No need to apologize tekbow, you're entitled to your opinion.
As for the lathering bit, IMO his lather is a bit on the thin side, especially for Castle Forbes. And I have heard the tale the circular motions are bad for brushes, an old wives tale that most of us ignore (whether or not it's true, who knows?).
Other than that, if it works for him.....
didn't like the paintbrush motion thing, again each to their own, but thats the thing isn't it, different stuff works for different people, and that was presented a little as a definitive guide when everyone is different. I have wirebrush stubble and need circular brushing to work it in properly, if i do a paint job, i feel the lack of glide and slickness on my skin
He doesn't do much lather making there. If I used that much CF I would have to try really hard to get that little lather.
Gentlemen:
I have seen that video. I agree with some things and disagree with others.
I'm one for using the brush in a circular motion, reserving the paint brush for the first and the last movements. Also, I am a believer in short strokes, although that is a personal choice. His first lather seems thin and dry, I might add. Altogether, though, this is a good video.
I like the double edge he is using. I don't recognize the handle to be able to identify the razor.
Regards,
Obie
I was always been under the impression that you're supposed to stretch your skin the opposite way for WTG.
HAVE I BEEN SHAVING WRONG ALL THIS TIME?!?
Hello, Derek:
I quite agree with his stretching part. I mostly stretch in front of the blade rather than behind it. Sometimes that's not possible, of course, in which case I stretch behind. Mostly, though, whether I stretch in front or behind the razor depends mostly on my hair growth in a specific area. When stretching front, I feel that gives the razor a smoother path, as well as set up the hairs slightly better.
Regards,
Obie
I thought the point was to make the hairs more perpendicular to the skin surface.
Yes, Derek, that's why I pay attention to hair growth pattern.Quote:
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Regards,
Obie
I completely agree on using the CF, but something does seem wrong. I do almost the same thing - wet the brush for a bit, usually when I'm in the shower, then shake off the water, swirl a few times over the CF and then go on the wet face for a minute or two (I skip the bowl). My lather looks nothing like his, I should probably describe it as 'my lather runneth over'.
I don't know if it really makes a difference with CF as I don't think I can get my lather to look like his, but the narrative seems pretty sound, just the video that goes with it doesn't match what I've experienced.
His lather seems thin compared to what I do, but then again he shaves very quickly so he doesn't really need it to last all that long. When I used cartridge razors it didn't really matter what my lather looked like, since it was over and done with before anything had a chance to think about drying. So I never even really thought about it until starting with the straight.
If you have a Simpson brush, and read the instructions, he is simply following them. That is the Simpson recommendation. I don't follow it, but I do find that on my third pass, using a painting stroke vs a circular motion does apply a better lather.
RT
I think itīs maybe a case of hard water, re the thin lather and spot on re you donīt need as good lather when DE shaving, in my experience.
As everyone has said, YMMV, but as I just mentioned in another thread; this is precisely how I have lathered 90% of the time or more for the last 15 years. This is pretty much classic "face lathering." (I know he uses a bowl, but it looks like he only uses it long enough to get a lather started and load his brush properly, which is critically important) I would call the amount of lather he has on his face just about right. Any less and you won't get adequate lubrication. Any more, and you're just wasting soap so you can look like Santa. There's nothing wrong with great heaping mounds of lather if that makes you happy, but in my experience, that is all you need.Quote:
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the thing is, it doesn't seem to take more than a snurdle for me to produce huge amounts of lather, so i figure if i can, why not? it gets mostly used anyway and the main factor for me is, it's a luxury. Warm soft lather worked onto my face feels nice. Some people may have a more utilitarian approach, and thats cool too
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I agree with everything Obie say's here. I'm the same. I did quite enjoy his video, but thought his lather was thin. I tend to go for the "Rabid Dog" look myself. I like a thicker lather. His looked like baby powder on his face, but to each his own....Didn't he say he went to Barber School?....? I didn't.....
90% of us should have this somewhere in every post. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zib
well this is what kind of made me sit up and think. I've seen it said somewhere on here that what barbers and old barber manuals say is usually contrary to the group wisdom and experience of multiple people on here? Usually because in a barber manual etc it was more or less one persons opinion
Actually, I would say a great lather is just as important, if not more so, when DE shaving compared to straight shaving. If I'm going to get irritation it's more likely to come from a DE than a SR.Quote:
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Gentlemen:
I agree with my good friend Ryan. Whether shaving with the straight or the double edge, good lather is essential.
Regards,
Obie
Could it also be said that since there are many different skin types that no single one-method solution will work, in regards to lather? I could see it as a preferance, sure. But how can some people get a fantastic lather from a puck of Williams and others tear their faces off? Is it simply experience?
I never went to barber school, so these are just questions and observations.
Hello, Derek:Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekC
Preference, of course, plays a major role in traditional shaving. Not only that, but the soap's quality has some bearing on how it reacts on the face. Musgo Real, a popular shave cream, sets my Hollywood face on fire. So does the German soap Gold Dachs. Oy! I have little regard for Williams soap. Others love it. Still, experience will help you make mounds of lather with even Williams. I can make a ton of lather with it. How good the soap's moisture, cushion and glide is a different story. I find it not very good, whereas others will feel differently. And so it goes in wet shaving.
Regards,
Obie
You could be right, for my skin type (oily and not very sensitive) a thin lather doesnīt much matter much when I DE shave (but that doesnīt mean I would go for it). When I SR shave I most often need better protection (more cushion and more slip), but I never went to barber school and Iīm not a pro in any way. So please take what I say and think with a grain of salt :DQuote:
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