oh forgot to say, if your talking about NOMAD check out the sandalwood and sienna soaps also, i have the C&E sienna and the trumpers snadalwood. I think the C&E performs better than trumpers and after having smelled the C&E sandalwood, i'll be replacing the trumpers with it when i've finished the trumpers as the C&E has a much stronger smell, comparable with trumpers sandalwood cream.