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08-07-2014, 03:48 PM #1
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Thanked: 0Stropping technique
Hi guys,
I've been using a straight razor for a few years; no real problems. I have a Dovo 5/8, a Norton waterstone, and a Dovo XL - the extra wide strop. I don't recall the grit of the waterstone, but it's a finishing grade. I generally hone my razor as and when I feel it's required, which is probably once or twice a year, and I strop around 80 times before I shave.
Now as I said, I don't really have any problems with my shave, but I was curious about a couple of things. Most people use standard strops, which are narrower and require an X movement - that's not required on the XL, and obviously it's only advantage over any other strop. When stropping, there is a very slight arch, so that the middle of the blade does not make full contact at the end of the strop. The strop is leather, and I occasionally treat it to a bit of olive oil, and a rub down with a glass bottle; I have no fabric or pasted strops.
I've never had a razor stropped by anyone else, so I can only assume it's OK; is it worth adding anything to my routine, or trying a thinner strop with an X motion?
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08-07-2014, 07:16 PM #2
Olive oil (or any food type oil for that matter) isn't the best thing in the world for a strop. I found this interesting and helpful-
"Although leather does indeed become a little suppler after applying olive oil, this instant gratification comes with a price. Olive oil, and every oily substance for that matter, will not “nourish” your leather, but actually accelerate its deterioration.Leather is extremely permeable, and will soak up any oils you put on it. When oil first saturates leather, it seeps to the back—to the part you can’t see. Eventually, the oil ends up spreading throughout the leather and naturally resurfaces. Once this happens, your leather will have unsightly oil spots.
Additionally, oil-saturated leather will give off a salad-like scent, meaning that it won’t work to ward off existing odors.
Whenever you use olive oil to treat a leather problem, you will always be trading instant gratification with the long-term health of your leather.
For leather treatments, don’t always trust what you read on the internet. Stick to products designed especially for leather or take your leather to a professional. The quick, cheap olive oil “fix” renders a much higher cost in the end."
Tony Miller (the "other" strop making Miller in Maryland) recommends NO oil or treatment on his strops. I have two (Bridle and steerhide). Never seen the need to put anything on them but a razor....Last edited by Phoenix51; 08-07-2014 at 07:28 PM.
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08-07-2014, 07:27 PM #3
The only thing I would change would be use neatsfoot oil instead of the olive oil. As far as the rest of your routine.......if it ain't broke don't fix it!
"If You Knew Half of What I Forgot You Would Be An Idiot" - by DoughBoy68
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08-07-2014, 10:47 PM #4
An oil like olive oil over time will turn rancid within the strop.
Most will tell you X stropping is the preferred method no matter how narrow or wide your strop is. That method simply provides better coverage to all blades.No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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08-07-2014, 11:31 PM #5
I have only used a 3" strop and still use an Xstroke also, it just does need to be as wide a stroke as a narrow strop thats all. but should still be used regardless of strop width to ensure full & even edge working
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08-08-2014, 04:14 AM #6
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Thanked: 3215I am not sure what it is you are describing with your strop, Are you talking about Cupping of the leather?
Even if it is cupping, the razor should flatten it enough to make complete contact. Please post a photo of the problem.
If you have not use linen or substitute to clean your blade before stropping, you should check your strop for dirt.
Take a clean dry paper towel and fold into quarters and briskly rub the strop. If a lot of grit comes off you may want to clean it.
A few drops of a good leather conditioner/cleaner on a folded paper towel and some brisk rubbing until you have a clean towel when wiped.
A linen strop or substitute of Canvas, cotton or polyester, fabric or nylon or Poly webbing will work to clean, polish and align the edge prior to leather stropping.
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08-08-2014, 01:53 PM #7
Righto, i only use a leather strop, i have made fabric strops, and have been given one with a fabric component that i do not use.
My first strop is a homemade one that i used to palm rub for a while, but now only do rarely, it is 3" wide, on that i dont really do an X more of a windscreen wiper type stroke, which feels quite natural, start toe leading (slightly), finish heel leading (slightly). I get a pretty good edge from it.
My second strop (a recent gift) is 2.5" wide, that was hard and felt abrasive when i got it, i used 2 applications of leather conditioner (bought for my boots) and rubbed each in well. On that strop i do an X, but only because i have to, and get good results.
I dont think an X is necessary if you dont need to do it, and can do something other than just rubbing the blade up and down. If the leather feels hard then either palm rub or add a little conditioner, but remember that what you put o cant be un-put on.Bread and water can so easily become tea and toast