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When stropping and honing, if I understand it correctly, you start with the shoulder on the strop and drag at an angle, finishing with the toe on the strop. Then you flip it over, reposition with the shoulder on the strop and do the same thing in the opposite direction. Why wouldn't you just leave the toe on and finish at the shoulder for the reverse stroke?
Because symmetry is divine.
X
... and to "X" is sublime ...
So if you have the time
And the weather is fine
Take some advice of mine:
"Strop not in a straight line!"
(Though it isn't a crime)
Here endeth the rhyme.
James.
A robust haikuQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Simple and determinate
Could do no better
X
What a great way to save that one . . . I thought I was going to explode at the thought of explaining that again. :)
X cellent, James :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Great, just what we need a poet laureat stropmeister.
Whats next the singing honer?
Hello, guys can anyone tell me the proper way to apply aluminum oxide to a strop. and when you have it applied right.
thank you
I heard from a singer,
You just dab with a finger,
But don't let it linger...
Oh alright, I have no idea. Don't use the stuff myself. :shrug:
No reason. I do it like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle76
Nenad
There's also a movie about a guy that had a last name of X. I think we do this as a sort homage to that movie or that guy, I don't remember...
:hmmm:
Oh, I thought it was a technique named after a certain group of super people who had special powers to manipulate steel, create great clouds of lather, and communicate voicelessly over great distances :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by bth88
Steve you are totally right. The comic book definitely came before the movie about that guy who's last name is X.
And Kyle76, you can read all about it starting with X-Men issue #1 (Marvel Comics). It will take you a while to get through all those issues but it will be well worth the investment, will improve your honing skills and your stropping technique.
:tu
Yes, but he'll have to get Xmen, Xforce, Xfactor, cross overs into other comics, 1st edition gold foil issues that come out before the real 1st editions, and, and,and..................whew! No wonder I stopped collecting.Quote:
Originally Posted by bth88
But really, I was referring to X'sMen :D
So you're trying to tell me all those one of a kind issues I bought at auction [Christie's, London] to find the secret of the X pattern were for nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by steve
:gth
You SOB!!!
<hangs head in shame> :(Quote:
Originally Posted by bth88
Wow. 15 responses to this thread so far and only one guy answered my question. Thanks, guys. ";"
You're welcome, anytime. I know little, but have opinions on almost everything, thus my feeling that the X is used to balance the forces applied to the razor so the toe gets about equal hone as does the heel and that with the small stones barbers used it also gets the whole or more of the edge on the stone. ???, but at least it sounds good.
Jim,
Sorry. Have a read through this thread. Quite a few of the hone- and strop-meisters on the forum give their thoughts on the X pattern (and other related things). Someone asks a similar question to yours at about page 3, I think.
James.
(There once was a man from Carolina,
Who wanted to get his edge finer.
He asked on the forum,
But died from the boredom.
All he got was a post from a rhymer!)
Yeah, the board lately became like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle76
Nobody noticed X's Haiku on the X was actually a Haiku!? :rant:
Too deep for you, eh? I'll try to dumb it down a little for you next time. :p
X
I noticed ";"
No, I noticed it tooQuote:
Originally Posted by xman
So let me offer my apologies for being a contributing factor here. I guess it's easier to repsond off topic than to show restraint in shutting up if there is nothing to contribute on the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfly
I'm sorry Kyle for my part in this.
No need for apologies, I was just being a bit sarcastic...
cheers,
Nenad
Hey, guys, don't apologize. I just thought I was getting a hard time for asking a stupid question. The poetry was actually pretty clever. Cheers :D
Still, you brought up a pretty valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfly
X
Y?
Zee, it's like ziss.
Typically, the x-pattern is for a stone or strop that is narrower than the razor blade ... so in order to get it all covered, you slide it across in an X pattern whch results in roughly equal coverage across the blade. And it also results in a more even wear on the stone, FWIW.
X
Y?
Zed it all before.
Oooooooooooooo, he's good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc4
X
Jim - you are too kind. Nenad and Steve are right. I'm sorry. Sometimes (all the time...?) I can get a bit carried away (read "smart ass"). It wasn't my intention to give you a hard time. It's a good question actually, and not stupid in the least. I hope that some of the info. in the thread I posted previously is helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle76
James.
I disagree. The stone and strop were deliberately made narrower to force the x pattern, which has more with momentum and distribution of weight and force and straightness of the edge than with length of the blade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc4
Do a little research on the forum, there is plenty of discussion on this topic.
On the forums being cluttered lately, I don't mind a little off topic discussion, or a good joke, but I really don't care about Paris Hilton being discussed here...
Nenad
It's a 'chicken or the egg' argument anyway and the result is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfly
But she's treated sooooooooooooooooooooooooo unfair ....... (ly) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by superfly
X
I don't think so. No razor's edge is completely straight, that is why X pattern is needed. See this thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by xman
http://straightrazorpalace.com/showthread.php?t=6290
and, besides, with a name like yours, you should be advocating for the X stroke, not against it ;)
Nenad
Yeah, I remember that thread. I'm not going to open that can of worms again, but I still find better results from concentrating on a Rolling Hone approach.
X
sure, that too, but it's still a modified X pattern, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by xman
More than less I guess. I don't actually end up Xing much and I'm not trying to, but I'm not trying not to, but it seems to happen a little. That's why I say 'chicken or the egg'; I'm focussed on the root reason for the X, but not achieving much of it. We recommend the X because it achieves what needs to be achieved without having to understand the mechanics too much ... six of one, half dozen of the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfly
X