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Hey all,
Is there a place to buy ChromeOx that does NOT need to be mixed with oil or anything before treating a strop? I wanted to paste one side of the webbing (I think I remember reading that this works nicely) that came with the SRD Latigo with Chrome Ox, as I remembered this morning how much I love touching up an edge once every 10 shaves or so per razor. Anyway, I don't trust myself with not screwing up the mixing process (nor do i really feel like doing it).
Help would be appreciated.
Sure, look under Chris L in the Hones section of the Classifieds.
I did just PM Chris, but I thought I rememebred seeig that his needed to be mixed? No?
It doesn't need to be mixed. The powder is so fine that rubbing it into a surface dry works well. I've never tried an oil mixed chrome paint on canvas but I don't see a need for that over rubbing dry powder on canvas.
I've found rubbing dry powder on smooth leathers like latigo works better for me than rubbing in oil mixed chrome ox. Why? the dry powder allows for the very light tint that is best whereas the oil mixed makes for a very opaque coating.
I do like oil mixed on balsa. Dry rubbed in balsa works. But, the oil mixed on balsa soaks in nicely and just works better for me.
Mixing is simple. There's no exact ratio needed. A very small amount, say the size of a pea or at the most a blueberry mixed with 1/2 tsp of light oil (mineral, honing, "household" oil) makes for enough "paint" to easily coat a strop. The idea is NOT to paint heavily and make for an opaque surface. That's too much.
Chris L
Cool, thanks for all the info.
Chris, would the Chrome you sell work dry on the "webbing" second strop being used as a second on teh SRD strops? The product description mentions that it works well with pastes. I didn't know if dry Chrome acts as a paste...just don't want to screw up the strop!
In no way would you screw up the strop by rubbing some dry chrome ox powder into it. If you're committing to putting chrome ox ANYTHING on a canvas or linen strop then you're already committing to that strop being green for life. Aesthetically chrome ox will make a strop green. Now as far as PERFORMANCE of dry chrome ox vs. paste, you'll get a heavier concentration or saturation of not only chrome ox but the carrier medium if you use some of the stuff in the bottle or mix it with oil. However, dry chrome ox absolutely will stick to the cotton or linen fibers and will therefore do it's job even if it's only powder. Worst case, if you DON'T like dry powder chrome ox on linen, buying and applying some form of chrome ox paste right over the chrome ox powder won't hurt a single bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by smokelaw1
Chris L
Sweet. Thanks. I'll grab a couple packets from you, and paste one side of the webbing second, leaving the other side for daily use. I'll go through the classifieds.
I highly recommend getting the CrOx from Chris. I just received two packs from him and did two strops very lightly as suggested. I figure I have enough left for the next two to three years.
I did put the CrOx on leather one a small travel loom and a small travel strop I've had for years. It worked great one of the best shaves I have had. Straight off the 8K Norton and 20 laps on the CrOx and it was a sweet shave.
Thanks again Chris!!!!
I put it on the back-side of my strop. My Gotta is now VERY shave ready:D
The stuff from SRD also work like a dream.
If you are in the UK you can get Dry CrOx from
Green Chrome Oxide Powder Strop Dressing for Razors 5gm on eBay, also, Barber Shop Shaving, Vanity Perfume Grooming, Collectables (end time 03-Feb-09 00:02:14 GMT)
£4.99 5g Free post
I mix it with a little oil & use it to polish razors before the metal polish.
Works great.
Ok, so now you have about 1/2 tsp of "paint". How do you spread that evenly? And how do you figure out what's thin enough so you don't run out before getting to the other end?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris L
What are you applying it to, Quick? Balsa? If so, take a finger (it will stain your skin like paint to you may want to stick your finger in a sandwich baggie tip or something. Not a biggie if it stains but it'll stick around for days until it wears off. "Paint" an "X" across the balsa. A big X. Just dab 1/2 or less of the "paint" you mixed up to make the first \ then the rest or less for the /. Don't even worry about making anything other than an X. The "paint" won't soak in completely on the balsa right away. Take a razor and strop. Your razor will spread the X out a bit more. Actually, razors for quite some time will pick up some of that "paint" when you strop. You'll have to wipe the spine at at the beginning, carefully, wipe the edge to get the excess off and avoid staining a plain leather strop you want to keep looking purty (at least I do). Eventually, the "paint" soaks in and dries enough where there's no excess to contend with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick
If you're applying to leather I suggest the same approach. If you're applying chrome ox oil paint to linen, I've never done that and don't think you need to mix with oil (dry powder for cloth. dry powder for leather is my preference as far as that goes).
Chris L
Cool! I read the thread on making a balsa wood strop a week or two ago and bought a board at the hobby store. Now I think I'm inspired to actually do something with it :).
You'll like it. Remember, your goal is not to end up with an evenly coated thick coat. A plain X with unpainted balsa between the X is just fine. Your X stropping pattern will ensure than the entire razor edge passes over chrome ox.
Chris L
Hmmm, no X pattern for me. Strop is 3", hones are going to be 3". But now I'm worked up into a frenzy and will be off to Orchard Supply in about 10 minutes... :D
The balsa board I have is 36" x 4" x 1/4". I'm thinking 1/4" plywood or maybe lexan for a backing.
What's a good length? I suppose there's a really slim chance it might see a suitcase some time in the future so I figured I'd cut it in half for two 18" strops. With handle, total 23"-24".
So a 24" x 3" strop with 18" of surface? That sound ideal?
That would work. I treat mine more like a refresher hone and only have about 8-9" in workable length. 10 passes usually refreshes the edge for another few weeks. I would say for 18" of pasted length you'd need less than 10 pass FOR SURE.
Chris L
Ok... I'm back from Orchard Supply. Only $47.
Haha, only $7.50 for materials for 2 paddle strops (plus the $5 I spent last week for the balsa wood and $8 for the 2 packets of crox I just ordered from you :)). I've forgotten the reason that board measurements are different... 3" wide board measures 2.5" across so I went with the 4" to get 3.5" boards. I vaguely remember something like it used to be 3" before they trimmed it square or something like that. Sounds like a sawmill instituted standard. My 4" balsa wood board measures 4" across. go figure.
You're on your way my friend.:tu:tu
Chris L
I'm there! Oh... my CrOx hasn't arrived yet :)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ddleStrops.jpg
Wow those look great... I think I may do exactly what you did... though it wont be nearly as neat :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick
Could I put Cr0 on one side of my canvas strop and still use the other side for normal before each shave stropping?
Sure you could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dups
Chris L
By the way I got the Cr0x yesterday! Great instructions love it! thanks again!