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I have read here through the search function lots about the #3, #9, and #10 Kanayama strops, but there's not much about the #6.
There are Kanayama #6's available from aFramestokyo, they say there is missprint kanoyama/kanayama (but understand that's his original name) where I got my #3, does anyone have the #6000 and what are the impressions. I'm looking for a Kanayama specifically for a friend.
Thanks.
As I understand it, the "Kanayama" stamp on "Kanoyama"'s strops is as the result of a typo/spelling error made by the stamp manufacturer years ago. When Kanoyama-San was made aware of this, he thought it was pretty funny since he'd stamped about 100,000 strops over the years, and saw no need to change the stamp. What a cool old man!
I have no experience with the #6, but have a #3 and a 90K and have no reason to think the #6 is anything but a wonderful strop.
I have to ask, is there another zero in the number?
Before the relatively recent numbering change, his line up used to be 30,000; 50,000; 60,000; and 90,000.
~Richard
Correct Geezer and Mike, the #60000 and got the name "missprint"...any opinions on the #60 000? What distinguishes it from the #30000 or any of the other strops? Thanks!
Phrank,Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrank
From what I recall, the general difference in these strops — 60000, 70000 and 80000 — is in the thickness of the leather. The 90000 is the longest, as I understand. I have the 70000 and the 80000, and the 80000 has a wee bit thinner leather, which I prefer. I love both strops, though; the feel of the razor on them is delicious. Good stuff.
I think a lot was about the final treatment of the leather and what material was used in the "Linen." Also the 90K had three lengths of stropping materials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrank
I would guess!! that the similar numbering of the new order would be about the same as the old but shorter.
I love it!!! The leather is so soft even a Swabby could wear it as a collar!
~Richard
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Originally Posted by Phrank
The #60,000 is actually the same length as the #90,000 (660mm), compared to 600mm in all the other range. Interesting that its only the 60,000 and 90,000 that have the extra length! I wonder why he chose to make the 60,000 with the extra 60mm, given that its in the middle of his range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obie
I got the #3 from Aframestokyo earlier this year, and yesterday I ordered the #60,000 from the same. The vendor at Aframestokyo (Takeshi Aoki), emailed me yesterday to confirm dispatch, and he happened to mention that I got the last one. I have emailed him back to see if he expects more stock in the future, as his website shows all the Kanayama's he stocked as now being unavailable.
I hope for the sake of other purchasers that he can still get these great strops. There are other online vendors selling Kanayamas that show some stock, but Aframestokyo has by far and away the best prices. I saw a #60,000 on a couple of other sites yesterday for nearly twice the price that Aframestokyo are/were charging.
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geezer
Old Swabby here...
The other difference being the #8000 #9000 and #10000 come with a third component a suede strop while the others do not, and personally to me that suede is a pure joy to use and I definitely think it adds a subtle smoothness before you hit the Cordovan adding to the final edge.
While the #30000 is an excellent strop, I find the backing on it very nice, I have two other strops, the workhorse Illinois #827 with the cerium oxide hard back which is excellent, as well as the leather on that thing for a good after shave stropping. The 3" SRD Roo strop is a pleasure to use. I especially like the thick 100% pressed wool backing, great component.
The #30000 is a pleasure to strop with, and especially with the finer hollow ground blades, undoubtedly subjective on my part, but these Kanayama strops seem to the perfect match for the finer hollow ground blades, while I find the Illinois #827 better suited to the heavier Sheffield blades.
Having the #60000 on the way now, I'm interested to check out the suede backing which I've heard so much about, but some great info here, thanks.
Gentlemen,
At first, I could not get used to the suede component and opted for the cotton, which is quite stiff. Later, I began to appreciate the suede component, and now use it exclusively with the leather. Jaime, I know what you mean, my friend.
Hello, I read the the numbers to identify the strops has changed during the years.
So what do you think about this #600 Kanayama? And Genuine shell means cordovan? Thanks a lot.
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The higher numbers mean higher end but the strop quality is the same with all of them. The higher end are larger and thicker but the razor doesn't care it just sees the surface and that is the same on all.
I hope you are NOT keeping that strop folded over like that.
Thank you very much. So basically a #600 should be the same of #6000 or 60000 or am I wrong? I have seen people talking of #3 size, so this could be a "#6"size, right?
It's not mine it's a picture I found surfing the net ;)
As mentioned above the current numbering system refers to the thickness of the shell leather along with the width and the length. There have been many, many variations on Kanoyama strops over the years. Several different stamps (mostly annimals or a bird) in different colors. Strops made for different retailers may be marked differently as well.
Here is a Kanoyama strop made for a German retailer which included an upgraded fastener. It would be the equivalent of the 30,000. AFAIK all Kanoyama strops are shell.
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Here is a picture of a custom offering a few years ago by Naomi San (the maker).
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Here is a currently offered Kanoyama bench type strop with a shell surface strop and a suede bottom strop.
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I dont want to spam but i bought today a second PELICAN 5700 strop - Ishiri made in Japan , Shell and ect. it has many / 4 / stamps the metalic part is the same as the new Canoyama strops . It has 2 Pelicans on it and it is 6.5 sm widht .
Is this an old series Canoyama strop and shell is a horse hide but is it cordovan .
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I think that it whorth 35 $ - looks in good condition - it will be my first shell strop .
I clean my new Pelican strop , rubb it generously with 1to 1 mix of hot water and talow chaving soap / Arko / . I clean and bleach the coton linen strop and is snow white now . It works Fabulous.
The only problem is that i try the face side of the pelican and is slick as ice . It has some kind of coating on it - shiny , red coat . It has practicaly no draw , at all .
What have i done - i strop and i strop and i strop over 120 times and i have the feeling that nothing hapened . I dont lile this at all .
I turned the strop and i strop on the back side , and it was fine feeling . Everything was ok . but the face is slick and useless .
I have 2 other vintage horse strops that i made a padles ,and they are all the same thing . Only after sanding it down and rubbing leather conditioner ,they get some draw ,and began to work .
If i have to sand it or broke in it , why it is writen broke in . It is slick ,and the leather surface sounds noisy and harder than my favourite bovine strops - Latigo and natural cowhide . What should i do - the feeling is like im stropping on plastic bag .
Doesnt like it t all and this Pelican Nishiri strop , was almost new - pliable and good .
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That is a better price for the 60k. thanks! :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by KrytonsJaw
Too bad the 90,000 is sold out. But the 60,000 is decent compared to what others are asking for a 50,000...
Gentlemen,
Fendrihan, in Canada, now carries the Kanayama strops.
*edit: not sure what I was reading, or if the price changed, butQuote:
Originally Posted by Obie
$152 http://yhst-27988581933240.stores.ya...zor-60000.html beats the crap out of a thinner 50000 one at 195
https://www.fendrihan.com/products/k...ng-razor-strop
Reading the blurb I was amused by the "50000 Grit" statement. As if it were a hone. Also, they say it is made of the finest bovine leather. Last I looked bovine was cow. Kanayama strops are usually horsehide. Could the blurb be mistaken, or is it a lesser price because of the material ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jnats
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The Kanayama #50000 leather strop is the perfect accessory for your honoured straight razor: it provides all that you need to keep your blade functioning in excellent condition. Made of authentic bovine leather with 50000 level grit, this strop makes sharpening effortless. The woven canvas clamped to the strop warms your blade before you hone on the leather, ensuring the most effective sharpening job.The metal clamp is linked to a hook, a device you can use to secure your strop to the wall while you sharpen. Equip yourself with this fine Japanese strop, and you'll never need to replace your old straight razor.
Each one of these premium leather strops is handmade by Mr. Kanoyama, an industry expert who has now established a world-wide reputation for the exceptional quality of his craft. Each strop is handmade in his workshop in Tokyo, the legacy of one man. A product of true devotion, Mr. Kanoyama's strops are not just honing tools, they're artisanal quality handiwork that you'll come to cherish over the years.
Grit: #50000
Dimensions: 2.7 x 23.6 inches (68 mm x 600 mm)
Materials: Natural leather, metal snap hook, and canvas strap
Made in Japan
I believe you read it right Jimmy. Just wish my error wasn't quoted as it's KANOYAMA Kanayama Cordovan #60000 Razor Strop that's the cheapest I've found.
The switch is because he's had 'difficulties' acquiring horses with a thick a** ;)
